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Re: Ultraxion

Postby Tinderhoof » Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:29 pm

Yawning has mentioned a few times that TF will replace Bloodletting as we get 2p T13, and for sure 4p T13.

I am sure an extra TF every 4.5 minutes while good will not be better then 10 extra second of Berserk.

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Re: Ultraxion

Postby mekell » Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:46 pm

thanks guys.
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Re: Ultraxion

Postby Leafkiller » Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:45 pm

GoB is significantly ahead of GoTF even with 4PT13. I only checked on a 5 minute Patchwerk-style fight, but the difference was so great that I didn't bother checking any other scenarios.

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Re: Ultraxion

Postby Rawf » Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:36 pm

So apparently it's possible to shred Ultraxion

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-j ... 936&e=3205

No idea how though...
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Re: Ultraxion

Postby Konungr » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:44 pm

Notice the date on that log. That was back on October 19th, back when it was possible to Shred. Shred/Backstab got broken when they made it to where one of the Rogue abilities (Shadowstep IIRC) would work for the fight.

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Re: Ultraxion

Postby Rawf » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:13 am

Ah yep, it's dumb that PTR kills are being ranked on WoL. Didn't even check the date because I assumed it would be from this reset.
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Re: Ultraxion

Postby Konungr » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:20 am

Rawf wrote:Ah yep, it's dumb that PTR kills are being ranked on WoL. Didn't even check the date because I assumed it would be from this reset.



How did you even find that parse?

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Re: Ultraxion

Postby Leafkiller » Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:01 am

Konungr wrote:
Rawf wrote:Ah yep, it's dumb that PTR kills are being ranked on WoL. Didn't even check the date because I assumed it would be from this reset.



How did you even find that parse?


Look at the ranked parses.

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Re: Ultraxion

Postby mekell » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:15 pm

Does Feral Charge work? Anyone know?
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Re: Ultraxion

Postby Terias » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:27 pm

lol

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Re: Ultraxion

Postby Tinderhoof » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:39 pm

If you can't shred on the fight (which you can't) you can't Feral Charge.

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Re: Ultraxion

Postby Rarge » Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:34 pm

Although it's better to use Glyph of Mangle I found it easier for me to push higher numbers using Glyph of Bloodletting just because of being used to the extended rip. So if you're struggling to break 30k with Glyph of Mangle like I was try using GoB instead :)

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Re: Ultraxion

Postby Sorcerer » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:42 pm

Notdiggz on HC ultraxion 25, 42k DPS.

I am amazed and still have yet to understood how the fuck he was pulling almost 100k crit FBs with TF and over 84k without. No pot!

I am just a tiny little behind him gear wise, 392 without deathwing weapon and this amazes me.

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Re: Ultraxion

Postby Tinderhoof » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:44 pm

Sorcerer wrote:Notdiggz on HC ultraxion 25, 42k DPS.

I am amazed and still have yet to understood how the fuck he was pulling almost 100k crit FBs with TF and over 84k without. No pot!

I am just a tiny little behind him gear wise, 392 without deathwing weapon and this amazes me.

If you link the log you are speaking about in question I could provide more details. Looking at his armory though a few things jump off the page.
1. He has both off the normal mode BIS trinkets (Wrath of Unchaining, and Vial of Shadows)
2. Every gemslot has an epic gem in it.
3. The aformentioned Deathwing Weapon.


With all of that adding up I am not surprised that a full energy FB would go that high. Between the extra agility from Wrath of the Unchaining and the staff proc that is pretty much a Pot right there...every minute...for 10 seconds.

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Re: Ultraxion

Postby Qbear » Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:02 am

I'm not one to talk smack (usually) but if u look up blood legions fastest occuther kill it's from his pov and u'll notice his dps system is ehhhhh at best. GG top US guilds.

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Re: Ultraxion

Postby Rawf » Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:28 am

I'm fairly well geared (394 ilvl) and diggz has 600 more agi then I do (he's 399 ilvl). He has 6842 agi on his armory and that's including the 0 agi he gets from wrath of unchaining. Plus I think he was getting UF from a dk that fight.

He was definitely using mangle glyph over bloodletting though.
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Re: Ultraxion

Postby Terias » Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:38 am

I liked the part where he sat in bear form for the raid cd at the end.

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Re: Ultraxion

Postby exkape » Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:18 pm

Konungr wrote:According to our Priest, it's an impossible kill right now in 10 Heroic. With a 6 Min Enrage, 3 Healer Requirement, and a 236k Raid DPS Requirement, an extremely small number of guilds will get this.



my guild just got it 10heroic, i was sitting because of the fact that its a mangle spam.
it is possible, we 3 healed it with a resto shammy dpsing for a while.

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Re: Ultraxion

Postby Wicks » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:57 pm

Tinderhoof wrote:If you can't shred on the fight (which you can't) you can't Feral Charge.


Actually, on one of our tries I was distracted and used my usual FC opener, which made me fly behind him, then fall down on one of the ledges of the Temple, with his ginormous body above me.

No, I still couldnt shred. I tried. But no. Just no. :)

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Re: Ultraxion

Postby Arnathis » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:24 am

Tinderhoof wrote:Yawning has mentioned a few times that TF will replace Bloodletting as we get 2p T13, and for sure 4p T13.

I am sure an extra TF every 4.5 minutes while good will not be better then 10 extra second of Berserk.


So I just got my 4pc last night and we're about to start our H Ultrax progression tonight. Am I reading correctly that swapping in glyph of TF for BL is the better setup over Glyph of Mangle? Makes sense that it would be with 4pc but I wanna make sure.

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Re: Ultraxion

Postby Konungr » Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:40 pm

Arnathis wrote:
Tinderhoof wrote:Yawning has mentioned a few times that TF will replace Bloodletting as we get 2p T13, and for sure 4p T13.

I am sure an extra TF every 4.5 minutes while good will not be better then 10 extra second of Berserk.


So I just got my 4pc last night and we're about to start our H Ultrax progression tonight. Am I reading correctly that swapping in glyph of TF for BL is the better setup over Glyph of Mangle? Makes sense that it would be with 4pc but I wanna make sure.


Run mew yourself on this one, because GoTF is only good in some very volatile situations, so you will need to test for yourself.

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Re: Ultraxion

Postby Lashbryth » Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:25 pm

Can someone please confirm if going to bear at the start of the fight will active Last Defender of Azeroth on live for heroic mode 10?

Was unaware of this and after putting in 2 nights of attempts 1 2 weeks ago and 1 last week I got sat this week to bring in our terrible legendary staff lock to pull 33k but bring his buffs.. insert sad face and we couldn't sit one of the other 3 dps who I had been ahead of prior to me getting heroic weap/2pc this week because I lacked a reliable soak CD, other than for 1 soak

They managed to get the kill just after a couple of pulls tonight which is good after a 2% wipe last week, but after putting all the time in would have been nice to be there..


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Re: Ultraxion

Postby Tinderhoof » Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:18 pm

I can confirm that being in bear for the first 5 seconds of the fight (until you hear Thrall yell) will give you the Last Defending of Azaroth. I have used this every kill. Just watch your debuffs (yes it is a debuff) and then shift to kitty after you get it. Remember this only works for defensive cooldowns.

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Re: Ultraxion

Postby Ekthelion » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:59 pm

There's no need to sit in bear for the whole beginning until getting debuff ... I always put mangle, rake, mangle and then switch to bear form when thrall starts to yell, attack and maul the bastardo! and switch to cat form when you get the debuff :)
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Re: Ultraxion

Postby Kalze » Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:31 pm

Unrelated but amazing; I found out if you sprint and jump off the edge, 180 and Shred you can get a shred off! >.>

As a side note this fight is pretty brutal for healing near the end. We had a few sub 25% wipes last night and once you hit about 1 minute, 1.5 minutes or so left on the fight the amount of damage going out is insane. If possible (even with the DPS checK) try to get Last Defender at the beginning of the fight to make the best use of SI and Barkskin. Your healers will appreciate it.

Edit: Speaking Heroic mode.
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