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Tier off-set piece.

Postby Tinderhoof » Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:58 pm

I am looking for confirmation about which tier offset piece we should be shooting for. Based on my eyeballing it looks like the offset should be the chest http://www.wowhead.com/item=60287. With a boat load of haste and expertise it seems like the least useful of our tier pieces. The replacement is either http://www.wowhead.com/item=67135 or http://www.wowhead.com/item=59318.

I have heard arguments that the tier helm http://www.wowhead.com/item=60286 should be replaced with http://www.wowhead.com/item=60202. The hat is nicer then the tier helm as it replaces hit with mastery.

When I do the math though we end up losing almost 200 crit rating and a little mastery (assume socket bonuses are met) to gain a lot of haste and expertise.

While this is not really for everyone I can't see the trash drop helm being better because it does not have a heroic version, and the chest http://www.wowhead.com/item=59318 does.

Has there been discussion about the possibility of moving more damage to yellow attacks and white attacks away from bleeds will make the tier chest better? If we are doing heroic should we be going for 5p? Suggestions or insites would be awesome. Thanks
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Re: Tier off-set piece.

Postby Sylvaneart » Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:32 am

I am at work and my math is at home. I thought the gloves should be left out.
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Re: Tier off-set piece.

Postby Tinderhoof » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:37 pm

I am not sure if that is the case. As the only glove option that has a heroic version has 169 mastery (+ 10 mastery socket bonus) and 149 expertise. If you take the glove option you are required to take both the tier chest and the tier helm. Neither have mastery on them, but each of thier offset pieces have over 200 mastery on them (Chest 218 + 20 master socket bonus, Helm 228). That means we would be losing over 50 mastery and over 200 crit to pick up expertise/hit/haste.

That being said with the damage changes maybe it would be good to pick up some hit/expertise. I am just not sure how much is going to be worth it over that much crit and mastery.

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Re: Tier off-set piece.

Postby Tinderhoof » Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:30 am

I guess I ended up answering my own question. The offset trash helm plus the tier chest win out by a very tiny bit.

As there is no heroic version of the trash helm the tier hat and off set chest will be better. This makes for a troublsome upgrade path. As it is we had a 1.8% wipe on Nef 25. I am pretty sure by Monday we will have him down. I am next in line if a Vanq token drops. This will allow me to have 4p by the middle of next week (chest offset). Do you think its worth going for even if I got the trash helm? If I go the other rout it will take 3 more weeks to buy the chest and gloves with valor (assuming I cap each week).

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Re: Tier off-set piece.

Postby Sylvaneart » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:30 pm

I should have been more specific I was comparing heroic items in RAWR when I did this
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