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Re: 4.2 changes

Postby Konungr » Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:01 pm

Also notice that in the Patch notes they mention that the buffs are to counter not only the Strength Nerf, but also the scaling issues.

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Re: 4.2 changes

Postby Goodmongo » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:40 am

I know the differences in gear and scaling. I'm talking about intent of Blizzard. I'll repeat the most important line:

We boosted Feral damage to compensate for their losing the attack power from Strength. Net DPS shouldn’t change much overall, though burst may be slightly higher. (We didn’t want to buff bleeds since that was a problem before in PvP.)


So they boosted to compensate for STR changes and NOT to buff. But MEW and other analysis shows a clear buff. If a buff was NOT intended but the numbers end up showing a buff can we expect a nerf from Blizzard?

Or did Blizz really intend a buff to feral kitty dps and this line is incorrect?

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Re: 4.2 changes

Postby Stenhaldi » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:48 am

They probably prepared that line before the latest round of buffs (to rake and savage roar) was implemented.

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Re: 4.2 changes

Postby Zoid » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:29 pm

Goodmongo wrote:So they boosted to compensate for STR changes and NOT to buff. But MEW and other analysis shows a clear buff.

patch note states
Cat Form's scaling rate from gear upgrades was slower than other classes, which was causing them to fall behind in damage with higher item levels
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/2993743

if dps scale was "slower", and fixed, that results in a buff relative to gear.
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Re: 4.2 changes

Postby Floofles » Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:06 am

Rake is giving just 1 CP irregardless of whether or not the "instant" damage crits or not. The "instant" damage is also... not instant and is in fact quite delayed.

Upsides? It's effected by DI and mastery as expected. So a bit of a mixed bag of shite really...

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Re: 4.2 changes

Postby Tavi » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:50 am

Floofles wrote:Rake is giving just 1 CP irregardless of whether or not the "instant" damage crits or not. The "instant" damage is also... not instant and is in fact quite delayed.

Upsides? It's effected by DI and mastery as expected. So a bit of a mixed bag of shite really...


I was noticing this last night on Staghelm. I thought it was bugged out for me. The old lesser damage was giving 2 CP on crits why the hell would they change that?
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Re: 4.2 changes

Postby Konungr » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:56 am

Floofles wrote:Rake is giving just 1 CP irregardless of whether or not the "instant" damage crits or not. The "instant" damage is also... not instant and is in fact quite delayed.

Upsides? It's effected by DI and mastery as expected. So a bit of a mixed bag of shite really...


I have noticed this as well and assume it is a bug, I haven't had a chance but will be making a thread on the Bug Report Forums to address it if there is not already a thread.

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Re: 4.2 changes

Postby Tinderhoof » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:04 pm

Reesi and others have brought this up several times. I haven't seen word from the blues about what is happening.

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Re: 4.2 changes

Postby shinryu » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:03 pm

I honestly never noticed Rake was bugged...interesting.

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Re: 4.2 changes

Postby spw » Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:02 pm

Looks like it's been fixed

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Re: 4.2 changes

Postby Cuer » Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:05 pm

Yep, it's listed in the latest hotfix notes. Apparently Rake wasn't activating Primal Fury, which is why it was only giving the 1 combo point even on a crit.

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Re: 4.2 changes

Postby Searinox » Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:56 am

Jumped from 16.5 to 18k with T12 chest and boots and all the other available 365 items plus avengers cloak and belt. As I take a closer look at the damage, I notice an increase in FB's contribution as rising crit chance encourages me to use FB outside Berserk if TF is close to refreshing and Rip had just been applied. Shred has actually managed to drop slighty. Bleeds are also down, likely to the bad secondary stats on new gear costing me a full 2 points of mastery. Melee went up but only very slightly. It's a full 20% of my dps now. Mangle is obviously down. Overall Rip took the biggest fall and FB came up the most.

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