ZA/ZG loot

[Mensie Profile]

Hi all, was just wondering with the new leather agi drops in these instances inc the staff, are they any better than hc or jp items you can get? I'm not raiding as of yet but will be in a few months and just wanted to know if they would be any better than what I have. I have the staff and shoulders and have reforged to mastery but for some reason, my dps seems a bit lower. The staff also doesnt have as much dmg as the hc LC one.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

M

[Qbear Profile]

If you could do me a favor and link your armory so I can see what your wearing, that would help give proper answers to your questions.

I went and looked up the two staffs which you were referring to and that's very interesting and I would probably need leaf to comment on the items.

http://www.wowhead.com/item=56382 Heroic Lost City Polearm

http://www.wowhead.com/item=69626 Heroic ZG

the weap dps is higher which should place the ZG staff ahead. It's just weird to think that the blue item has better top end.

[felhoof Profile]

All items that drop from ZA/ZG are going to be better than any 346-level gear you can get, period.

There are even a couple pieces that are better than 359-level gear depending on your spec.

[CaptainCub Profile]

http://www.wowhead.com/item=56382 Heroic Lost City Polearm

http://www.wowhead.com/item=69626 Heroic ZG

the weap dps is higher which should place the ZG staff ahead. It's just weird to think that the blue item has better top end.

The blue polearm is slower and therefore yields lower dps than the ZG staff.
Blue 346 Polearm: 1590 + 2386 /2 /3.6 = 552.22 dps
Epic 353 Staff: 1556 + 2335 /2 /3.3 = 589.55 dps

[Laurind Profile]

necro-topic yay!
kind of related to this topic...
I'm really a bear, but usually have to DPS, depending on who is online or the fight...
I have Malevolence (N), and picked up the new ZG staff. So... Which would be better to use as a kitty? (Malevolence is reforged Crit->Dodge, Jin'do Crit->Exp)
and while I'm here... same thing with Tsanga'a (Crit->Dodge) and Membrane of C'Thun (Haste->Mastery)

Ty

[Leafkiller Profile]

necro-topic yay!
kind of related to this topic...
I'm really a bear, but usually have to DPS, depending on who is online or the fight...
I have Malevolence (N), and picked up the new ZG staff. So... Which would be better to use as a kitty? (Malevolence is reforged Crit->Dodge, Jin'do Crit->Exp)
and while I'm here... same thing with Tsanga'a (Crit->Dodge) and Membrane of C'Thun (Haste->Mastery)

Ty

In general use the higher ilvl pieces for both cat and bear - just reforge to a stat that is usable in both - for example you could leave Malevolence unreforged and use it with crit/mastery for both cat and bear. While the dodge will help you slightly more as a bear, not having it on the staff will not make or break your tanking set. I recently reforged a lot of my bear gear to higher expertise. The healers were not having any problems keeping me alive, nor were they running out of mana, and I wanted to increase my threat gen some and have a more viable setup for fights where I was alternating between cat and bear.

As for weapons, higher ilvl will always generate more dps - that is built into the game now. Just like FAP of the past, weapon damage is directly proportional to ilvl. Weapon speed and min/max damage do not matter to a feral - just ignore them (those matter to other classes though - this is strictly a feral mechanic).

[Laurind Profile]

thanks

seems like I'll keep Malevolence un-reforged with Membrane and un-reforge a couple of stuff shared by both "sets"

[Leafkiller Profile]

If you are interested in how the various stats affect mitigation on your bear set, check out Tangedyn's bear spreadsheet: http://theincbear.com/math/bear-mitigation-spreadsheet/