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Gearing T12/T11 with other 378's

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Gearing T12/T11 with other 378's

Postby adianar » Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:02 pm

OK. I just got T12 Chest/hands last night. I'm now forced to change out both of my heroic T11 pieces leaving me with 2pc T11 head/shoulders (359). I'm currently using offspec 378 pants, Cinberweb I think they're called, from Spider boss. I run 25 man reg FL and we're closing in on 5/7.

Question: I have the Ryolith helm sitting in my bags now. Do I break T11/359 ilvl set to use 378? Everyone else has already gotten the shoulders from Baelroc so I could possibly get them tonight. if it's now 2x 378 should I then break T11/359's?

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Re: Gearing T12/T11 with other 378's

Postby Konungr » Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:20 pm

I wouldn't break T11 2PC until you can upgrade both pieces at the same time w/ 378 or higher. If you were using 372s (I am in the same boat w/ 359s) I probably wouldn't break it until 391s, it depends on what Mew will tell me when I ask it.

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Re: Gearing T12/T11 with other 378's

Postby Leafkiller » Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:53 pm

I just brought up Mew and imported my toon (2pT11 + 2pT12).

I then turned on most of the raid buffs and ran a patchwork test: 26655 dps. I turned off the 2pT11 bonus and got 26311 dps. Secondary stats - mastery 1160, haste 1133, crit 1350, hit 958, exp 785.

I calculated the stat difference with the 378 shoulders from Baleroc and compared those to my 359 shoulders. The 378 shoulders (including socket bonus) provide +59 agility and +45 secondary stats. I did not bother with specific secondary stats since reforging can shift them around. I put the secondary stats into haste, so I now had a toon with 1178 haste and 59 more agility.

Rerunning the patchwork test my dps came our at 26581 dps.

Taking it one step further, if I replace my 372 t11 pants with the 378 pants off of Beth'tilac, I gain 23 agi and 30 stat points. Running that through Mew gives me 26707 dps.

TLDR: Replacing two 359 T11 pieces with two 378 pieces is going to be a dps increase. Replacing one 359 and one 372 T11 pieces with two offset 378 pieces is a slight dps increase (with higher mastery the difference will obviously be lower). At least on patchwork fights. Note - if you use the tier T12 shoulders, then you lose 10 agility which will make the numbers closer - especially for the case where one of the pieces being replaced is a 372 piece. People should test this for their toons with specific gear in mind.

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Re: Gearing T12/T11 with other 378's

Postby Floofles » Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:21 pm

Do bear in mind that the T11 2 set bonus does increase in value with more mastery and likewise increases the value of mastery.

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Re: Gearing T12/T11 with other 378's

Postby Leafkiller » Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:43 pm

Floofles wrote:Do bear in mind that the T11 2 set bonus does increase in value with more mastery and likewise increases the value of mastery.


I said that... "(with higher mastery the difference will obviously be lower)"

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Re: Gearing T12/T11 with other 378's

Postby adianar » Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:01 pm

Awesome thanks Leaf, et al. Message received.

Adi

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