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Weapon question - Malevolence(N) or Conquest Staff

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Weapon question - Malevolence(N) or Conquest Staff

Postby Andanas » Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:29 pm

Normally I would never use a PvP item in PvE. But the differences between Malevolence( http://www.wowhead.com/item=59474 ) and Ruthless Gladiator's Staff( http://www.wowhead.com/item=70228 ) seem to be pretty significant in favor of the PvP staff. I know resilience is a useless stats in PvE, but I'm seriously considering using it in PvE raiding.

Our raid team has only killed Shannox, and we just raid 2 nights a week, so God only knows when I'll see Fandrel's staff. I suppose I could get lucky and get the BoE polearm, but I won't hold my breath.

Just looking for opinions, thanks

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Re: Weapon question - Malevolence(N) or Conquest Staff

Postby Vorticose » Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:09 am

Yep, I'd go for it, by my valuation:

Fandrals/Ranseur 391 > Ruthless 391 > Ranseur/Fandrals 378 > Malevolence 372 >
Ruthless 378 > Witch-Hunter's Harvester 365 > Malevolence 359 > Jin'do's Verdict 353 > Vicious 359

So Basically yeah, the Conquest PvP weapon is okay. Buying Ranseur of Hatred (BoE) would be a much bigger upgrade if you're cashed up.

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Re: Weapon question - Malevolence(N) or Conquest Staff

Postby shinryu » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:38 am

Vorticose wrote:Yep, I'd go for it, by my valuation:

Fandrals/Ranseur 391 > Ruthless 391 > Ranseur/Fandrals 378 > Malevolence 372 >
Ruthless 378 > Witch-Hunter's Harvester 365 > Malevolence 359 > Jin'do's Verdict 353 > Vicious 359

So Basically yeah, the Conquest PvP weapon is okay. Buying Ranseur of Hatred (BoE) would be a much bigger upgrade if you're cashed up.

I'd personally rank reg Ranseur/Fandral over the 391 pvp weapon, but yeah, the 378 version should beat out reg Malevolence I'd think and tie (or maybe be slightly inferior to) the Witch-Hunter's Harvest. IIRC from Alaron's generalized pvp item weight, pvp is about a tier and a half below what would normally be a reg option since you're losing so much secondary stats for (usually) just a bit more agil.

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Re: Weapon question - Malevolence(N) or Conquest Staff

Postby Vorticose » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:58 am

The difference is basically:
+52 Agility, +96 Weapon DPS, +30 Crit (391 PvP)
VS
+265 Mastery (378 Fandrals), +TURNS YOU INTO FIERY CAT

I'd be surprised to find any situation or stat weightings which would have that PvP weapon not come out on top. Of course you need to be 2200 rating and I know I'll never get that, so it's a moot point for me.

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