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Keybindings

Postby ShmooDude » Sat Oct 18, 2014 1:40 pm

Was curious to get everyone's take on keybindings. I've been thinking of redoing mine to try to use shift less (so I don't pretzel my hand while strafing and then trying to shift + something at the same time for example). When it comes down to it, we have just a ton of keybinds, even post "prune."

Rotational (9-11):
Rake, Shred, Rip, Savage Roar, Ferocious Bite, Tiger's Fury, Berserk/Incarnation, Moonfire and Force of Nature
Thrash and Swipe for AoE

Defensive (3-4):
Survival Instincts, Rejuvenation, Healing Touch and T30 Talents if you take Renewal or Cenarion Ward

Interrupt/CC/Utility (4-11):
Prowl, Skull Bash, T15 Talents, T45 Talents, T75 Talents, T90 Talents, Dash/Darkflight, Stampeding Roar, Faerie Fire, Cyclone and Remove Corruption (last three mostly PvP)

Shapeshift (3):
Cat Form, Bear Form, Travel Form

Total (19-29): I usually have closer to the max bound

Note: Anything with "/" are macroed to either castsequence or cast at the same time

And while yes, there are many passive options on the talent tiers, many times you'll want the active use abilities (Displacer Beast/Wild Charge, Typhoon, HotW/NV, Lunar Inspiration). Looking for ideas. I'd kind of like to get most of my rotational abilities to where I can easily move (q, w, e, a, s, d) and use them at the same time. I know I could technically rebind either the turn or strafe keys since I mouse turn most of the time, but every time I've done this, my hand tends to pretzel more, and not less due to having less flexibility for strafing. I can use either Q/E or Hold Mouse Right + A/D to strafe which I use both depending on what keybinds I'm using at the time. Though that problem could potentially be eliminated.

I do have an MMO Mouse (Logitech G700? the 12 buttons for the thumb one) so that helps though I find myself tending not to bind rotational abilities there (is there anyone that does, how many and how easy is it compared to keyboard only). I know one guild mate that actually binds his movement keys to the thumb pad on his mmo mouse so that he has the entire left hand for keybinds and so he doesn't necessarily have that problem. Though I'm kind of dubious as to whether it works well because he tends to be one of those people that's slow to move out of the fire and/or be out of position.

Anyhow, looking forward to seeing what everyone does.

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Re: Keybindings

Postby Meaningless » Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:47 pm

DPS binds
1: FB
2: Shred
3: Rake
4: Rip
5: TF
Q: SR
Shift + E: FoN
MButton 5: Swipe
Ctrl + MButton 5: Thrash
F: Berserk/Incarnation macro
Shift + 1: Potion

Defensive/DoC
Shift + G: SI
G: Rejuv
Shift + MButton 4: HT

Utility
§: Prowl
Shift + Mouse Button 5: Skull bash
E: Wild charge/DB
V: 45 Talent
Shift + V: 75 Talent
F7 (Bound to sensitivity key): 90 talents <-- never really use this cause of DoC.
MButton 4: Stampeding Roar
Ctrl + MButton 4: Dash/darkflight macro
Tab: FF
Shift + 3: Maim

Shapeshift
F1: Bear Form
F2: Cat Form
F3 Travel Form


Probably forgot some :mrgreen:
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Re: Keybindings

Postby RareBeast » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:55 pm

1 = Shred
2 = Rake (and alt-2 = Swipe)
3 = Rip (and alt-3 = Thrash)
4 = FB
5 = SR
6789 are all a little fluid with pots, typhoon, bash etc depending on the encounter


Q = FF
E = TigersFury+Beserk
R = Skull Bash


Mouse Wheel Up = Cat Form (or Prowl if already in Cat)
Mouse Wheel Down = Bear Form
(Ctrl Mouse Wheel for zooming in and out)
Also toying with the idea of Alt-MWU for Travel and Alt-MWD for Mount

Clique and Grid for :-
LMB = HT
RMB = Rejuv
Shift LMB = Dispell
Alt-Shift LMB = MotW
Ctrl-Alt-Shift LMB - BRez
(+Other bindings for my resto spec)

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Re: Keybindings

Postby Thandorr » Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:17 pm

I use a naga so I use 1-12 and shift/alt modifiers.

Main Bar:
1: Shred
2: Rake
3: Empty (Moonfire in WoD)
4: SR
5: Rip
6: Bite
7: Swipe
8: Thrash
9: HT
10: Mighty Bash
11: Skull bash
12: Prowl

Shift Bar:
1: Dash
2: Travel Form
3: Agi pot
4: Empty (was symb)
5: TF
6: Berserk
8: Cat Form
9: Survival Instincts
10: Warstomp
11: Nature's Vigil
12: CD if Incarnation or FoN are taken

Alt Bar:
3: Typhoon
12: Rebirth

I am working some things around to try to be a bit more organized.

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Re: Keybindings

Postby Dwade » Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:41 pm

wheel down - shred, alt for entangling roots
wheel up - rake - alt for cyclone
wheel tilt left - treant, alt for charge/displacer, shift for typhoon
wheel tilt right - HT macro, alt for vortex
Middle button - Maim, alt for dash
mouse button 5 - Rip, alt for roar
MB 4 - FB, alt for nitro boost
MB 6 - SI
MB 7 - Berserk

Q - TF
E - SR
R - shift macro
F - soothe
Z - Stealth
X - Mighty bash

1 - Thrash
2- Swipe
3 - FF
4 - Skull Bash

F1 - bear
F2 - cat
F3 - travel

so yeah pretty much rely heavily on my mouse for most stuff, use clique for heals, rebirth and decurse
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Re: Keybindings

Postby ShmooDude » Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:20 pm

Thandorr wrote:I use a naga so I use 1-12 and shift/alt modifiers.

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How do you like using the thumbpad for most keybindings? I think I might try something similar.

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Re: Keybindings

Postby Kraineth » Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:29 pm

I use a logictech g600(basically the same layout as a Naga), so anything marked as "Num_1-12" is used for the 12 buttons on the side. I don't use it for rotational spells though, I feel like trying to use just my thumb to hit everything would be less than ideal. The most frequent spell I cast with the side buttons is Tiger's Fury


S=Shift key

R- Cat Form
S+R- Bear Form
T- Travel Form
S+T- Flight Form

1-Rip
S+1- Ferocious Bite
2-Shred(Prowl when out of combat)
S+2- Healing touch
3-Rake
s+3- Rejuv
4-Savage Roar
S+4- Healthstone/Health Potion
5-Maim
S+5- Entangling Roots
S+6- Rebirth

Mousewheel Up- Thrash
Mousewheel Down- Swipe
S+Mousewheel Down- Skull Bash

F-Shred
S+F- Faerie Fire (Moonfire when I use LI)

Num1-Tiger's Fury
Num2-Berserk
Num3-Pot
Num4-Incarnation/treants/whatever
Num5-Dash
Num6-Stampeding Roar
Num7- Survival Instincts
Num8- Nature's Vigil
Num9- Remove Corruption
Num10- Typhoon
Num11- Vortex
Num12- Displacer Beast/Wild Charge

I have shred bound twice since they removed mangle(cat) and I've used mangle/shred interchangeably for quite a long time now.

I also couldn't play without my 12 button mouse, which is why I have 2 backup mice just in case :D

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Re: Keybindings

Postby Steakbomb » Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:35 pm

ShmooDude wrote:How do you like using the thumbpad for most keybindings? I think I might try something similar.


Using the thumb buttons is weird at first but if you force yourself to use them then you get used to it quick. I have had a Naga for a little over a year now and I can't play anything without it as I bind keys to it in every game I play.

On to my binds:

1: Rake
2: Shred(Used to be Mangle and my fingers naturally still go there so its a backup so I don't make a mistake)
3: Shred
4: Rip
Q: Healing Touch(Macro that turns off Autoshift so can be used with PS procs)
E: Ferocious Bite
F: Savage Roar
Alt-1: Dash
Alt-2: Stampeding Roar
Alt-3: Rebirth(Mouseover Macro)

Naga Buttons:
Wheel Up: Prowl
Wheel Down: Survival Instincts
1: Skull Bash(Use the charge mechanic to get into melee as well)
2: Thrash
3: Swipe
4: Power Shift Macro
5: Tiger's Fury
6: Mighty Bash/Typhoon/Soothe(Depends on fight)
7: Agility Potion
8: Unbound(Used to be Tranq)
9: Unbound(Used to be Might of Ursoc)
10: DPS CD Macro(TF/Berserk)(Also used to include Berserking when I was troll and Synapse Springs)
11: Healthstone
12: Unbound
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Re: Keybindings

Postby ecolove » Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:44 am

Slightly off-topic:

Where do you guys bind your push-to-talk? Advantages/disadvantages?

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Re: Keybindings

Postby Meaningless » Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:03 am

I've always used Caps Lock for push to talk.
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Re: Keybindings

Postby Alpheus » Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:28 am

Meaningless wrote:I've always used Caps Lock for push to talk.


^ this
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Re: Keybindings

Postby Steakbomb » Sun Oct 19, 2014 1:47 pm

My Push to Talk is my Left Crtl key. I use it because I can easily hit it with my pinky and still press all my keybinds
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Re: Keybindings

Postby ShmooDude » Sun Oct 19, 2014 2:59 pm

Mine is Mouse 4, which pushing the mousewheel to the right. It works great for WoW because you virtually never use the left mouse button so it doesn't interfere with anything. Not so great with a game like Diablo 3 though.

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Re: Keybindings

Postby Stenhaldi » Sun Oct 19, 2014 4:06 pm

My main trick is to map ctrl and alt to mouse buttons. I also use shift, but it's not a problem since I don't use number keys.

esdf - forward/left/back/right (strafe only)
space - jump

mouse4 - autoattack
mouse5 - target nearest

capslock - talk

"sensitivity decrease" button on g400 mouse - ctrl
"application switch" button on g400 mouse - alt


q - rake
a - hurricane/frenzied regen
w - moonfire
r - shred/wrath/mangle
t - rip
y - savage roar
g - ferocious bite
h - maim
c - tiger's fury/rejuvenation (I need to change this now that TF can be used in any form)
v - swipe
b - thrash/healing touch
n - dash

shift+q - racial
shift+a - displacer beast/wild charge
shift+w - skull bash
swift+r - faerie fire
shift+t -
shift+y -
shift+g - remove corruption
shift+h - soothe
shift+c - berserk
shift+v - incarnation/force of nature
shift+b - nature's vigil/heart of the wild
shift+n - stampeding roar

alt+q - ursol's vortex/mighty bash/disorienting roar
alt+a - typhoon/mass entanglement
alt+w -
alt+r - entangling roots
alt+t - typhoon
alt+y -
alt+g -
alt+h - mark of the wild
alt+c - rejuvenation (for use in cat form)
alt+v - cenarion ward/renewal
alt+b - healing touch (for use in cat form)
alt+n -

ctrl+q - flight form
ctrl+a - cancel form
ctrl+w - cat form
ctrl+r - bear form
ctrl+t - prowl
ctrl+y -
ctrl+g - travel form
ctrl+h -
ctrl+c - trinket 1
ctrl+v -
ctrl+b - healing potion
ctrl+n - mana potion (haven't used this since BC)

ctrl+shift+q - bolt gun (engineering)
ctrl+shift+a - drums of speed (leatherworking, won't work in WoD)
ctrl+shift+w - agi potion
ctrl+shift+r -
ctrl+shift+t - cancel hand of protection and similar effects
ctrl+shift+y - revive
ctrl+shift+g - rebirth
ctrl+shift+h -
ctrl+shift+c - trinket 2
ctrl+shift+v - survival instincts
ctrl+shift+b - healthstone (not really needed anymore)
ctrl+shift+n -

3 - agility weapon
4 - spellpower weapon

Lots of empty slots due to the ability prune!

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Re: Keybindings

Postby Thandorr » Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:38 pm

ShmooDude wrote:
How do you like using the thumbpad for most keybindings? I think I might try something similar.


I agree with steak, you get it eventually and then you're totally hooked on it. I've used a naga since the blue original and I couldn't even think about using something else. I am currently using the 2014 edition with mechanical buttons and it is very nice. It is a great investment that will pay off tremendously. Reaction times are cut significantly by having all of the buttons so close on hand without moving.

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Re: Keybindings

Postby critsom » Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:10 am

Long time reader/dweller.. Here are my current binds. Totally think esdf-movement is worth the few weeks of awkwardness until you get used to it, along with assigning the spacebar to something else than jump. I mean, it's the biggest fricking key on the entire keyboard and it's used for...jumping? :)

These are cat-only, got the usual suspects like wrath and moonfire on the out-of-form-bar.

Movement - esdf
Jump - shift+d

1 - prowl
2 - rake
3 - savage roar
4 - rip
5 - thrash

w - shred
r - swipe
t - tiger's fury
f - berserk
v - random stuff
x - pot
z - remove corruption
a - vortex
q - typhoon
space - skull bash
mouse4 - healing touch
mouse5 - force of nature / incarnation

shift+1 - dash
shift+2 - stampeding roar
shift+3 - survival instincts
shift+4 - heart of the wild / nature's vigil
shift+w - ferocious bite
shift+r - faerie fire
shift+space - displacer beast / wild charge
shift+mwu - melee weapon
shift+mwd - caster weapon

ctrl+space - mighty bash
ctrl+mwu - rejuvenation
ctrl+mwd - rebirth
ctrl+mouse4 - cat form
ctrl+mouse5 - bear form

capslock - push to talk

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Re: Keybindings

Postby CowPond » Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:51 am

Speaking of.... can someone direct me to the macro thread if there is one. Having trouble finding it. Thx

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Re: Keybindings

Postby Nayni » Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:43 pm

Behold, the keybinds of a lefty...

They're abit outdated but you get the general idea :> (haven't updated this since I had to write apps)

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Oh ye, moving is I J K L, incase u wondered :D
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Re: Keybindings

Postby Aidunno » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:26 am

I havent had enough time to get out of my old habbits, after we lost some buttons.. it's the main reason that i have mostly my buttons under Shift, ctrl, alt...

Move:
WASD

Offensive:

1 Rake
2 Shred
5 Typhoon
Shift + 1 SR
Shift + 2 Rip
Shift + 3 FB
Shift + 4 Maim
R Thrash
Shift + R Swipe
E Tiger's Fury
Alt + 3 Berserk
Alt + 1 Macroed Fury + Berserk
Alt + 2 FoN


Defensive:

Shift + F SI
Q Healing Touch

Other:

Shift + Q Prowl
Shift + E Charge
Alt + Q HealtStone
Alt + E Tauren AoE stun(name??)
ctrl + E Mighty Bash
ctrl + R Dash
F Skull Bash
Shift + G Rebirth
ctrl + Q Heath Potion
T Virmens bite
G Stampeding Roar
Z Travel Form
ctrl + Z Bear Form
ctrl + X Cat Form


Hope there was all :D

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Re: Keybindings

Postby Amitty » Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:46 am

@Aidunnov Hey, I hope you don't mind a little bit of feedback. I just wanted to say that you use Modifier+Key for your most important finishers (SR, Rip, FB) which increases the chance for mistake and delay. The keys you use for your abilities for your opener (Q > T > Shift+Q > Shift+E > 2)(without Incarnation) require increased hand movement which might once again cause mistake and delay. If you can handle a change I would suggest using as little modifiers as possible. ;)
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Re: Keybindings

Postby CowPond » Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:48 am

Steakbomb wrote:On to my binds:

1: Rake
2: Shred(Used to be Mangle and my fingers naturally still go there so its a backup so I don't make a mistake)
3: Shred
4: Rip
Q: Healing Touch(Macro that turns off Autoshift so can be used with PS procs)


It would be great if you could post that macro please senhor

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Re: Keybindings

Postby Amitty » Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:52 am

#showtooltip
/run if InCombatLockdown() then SetCVar("autounshift",0) end
/use Healing Touch
/console autounshift 1


/console autounshift 0
/cast healing touch
/console autounshift 1

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Re: Keybindings

Postby Aidunno » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:09 am

@Amitty Thanks! these button-combinations come from my times using rogue as main. Indeed its time to change the old habbits, but im always been little lazy to do any changes where im already comfort :)

In 6.0.2 opener goes
T > Shift + Q > 2
no need to healing touch, so its not too hard anymore. also i position myself so that i dont need to use charge.

Does that macro prevent you from unshifting if used mistakenly out of PS proc?

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Re: Keybindings

Postby Amitty » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:31 am

Yes, the macro is currently not very useful since we use HT for self healing and there's a small chance for a mistake, but will be once again very useful at level 100 when BT becomes part of our play. ;)

PS : Sorry for the offtopic discussion.

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Re: Keybindings

Postby Minibubble » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:56 am

Nice post. Due to private matters i couldn't join for couple of weeks but here is my keybind on how i remember it. I am using this Buttons: Q E R F 1 2 3 4 V C 5. I have a cheap X7 mouse with 3 additional buttons where i keybind SHIFT and CTRL on it.

I'm playing with my twinks too, thats why i needed to bring a concept for Keybindings for easier adaptation from one class to another.
First there are 3 layers of Keyboards, NOMOD, SHIFT and CTRL. All the Skills on Layer NOMOD are the ones that are used the most, followed by SHIFT and then the rare ones on the CTRL modification. Then there are Categories that i take to evaluate the position of a skill. The first layers are strict but the other layers could be used for other stuff when a category is full.

Attack Keybinds ( Q E R)

I like to use Q E R for my attacks instead of 1 2 3 4, because its easier to reach them while using WASD for movement. E is the regular attack/combo builder, while Q are skills used for things like DoTs or skills that are used for keeping buffs up or with an average CD. R is used for finisher, or long cooldown skills. SHIFT would be the same rarely used skills in the rotation or mostly AoE and CTRL for special attacks.

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Utility Skills (1 2 3 4)

Each button has a category. If one category is near empty or one is full, i can rearrange it, but the idea is to keep the categories as strict as possible. 1 is for Buffs/Burst, 2 is the Healing Category. 3 is for Defense and 4 Kicks/CC.

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Movement/Gap Closer/Stance ( C V F)

Here are the skills that aren't fitting in the categories above. F is for Skills that are Gap Closers or Attack-/Utility Skills that influence movement of others.
With that we have all close Buttons on use, but C and V helps us to avoid stretching for other Buttons. You can easily push them with your Thumb, since your thumb is only for pressing the Spacebar (Jump) and is not used for anything else. C is for Movement Speed, V is for Stances/Invisible. Note that i am using a Macro on V that puts me into Cat Form if i am not in Cat Form and switches to Bear Form if i am in Cat.

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Mouseover (5)
5 is binded on the mouse, i don't need to push the button. Usually there are things like Growl, Remove Corruption etc. Mostly things that i can't do over GRID or need to prioritize actions near me.

Advantage

As you can see it is stable, i don't need to lift my left hand and it stays in position. Attack skills are near the WASD buttons and minimize the delay between Attacking Skills and Movement and also allows me to attack while moving. Utility skills are categorized, i.e. 3 for Def, 4 for Kick etc. Utility skills are near too, meaning no stretching. Modifier helps to put similar skills on one button. I can switch between Speccs or classes and don't need to readapt because they are categorized in this sheme aswell.
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