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Is it worth giving Innervate on CD?

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Is it worth giving Innervate on CD?

Postby ellorien » Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:28 am

How do you guys deal with healers who set up arrangements with you to constantly use innervate on them on CD?

How does 9k mana for a healer stack up against whatever % of dps is lost when giving innervate? Is the dps loss significant, and is it worth it? Should I tell them to just manage their mana better? Should I just keep giving it?

It's not a huge deal, but it seems to inevitably pop up for me all through guild changes and server transfers, so I was curious.

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Re: Is it worth giving Innervate on CD?

Postby Helistar » Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:52 am

Honestly my only feeling on Innervate is that I curse myself for not having removed it from the bars every time I accidentally press the key (which happens rarely enough).

In other words, I find it completely useless and irrelevant and I sincerely hope that it's removed from the baseline skills and only given to Resto/Balance in WoD.

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Re: Is it worth giving Innervate on CD?

Postby Zstriker » Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:23 pm

it's a waste, if your healers are low on mana with current MoP mana regen, they are bad
and a gain from it is pathetic

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Re: Is it worth giving Innervate on CD?

Postby ellorien » Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:55 pm

Hm, thanks! I couldn't tell if I was just being curmudgeonly about it (since I never beg for innervates on my healer characters) or if it really was silly.

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Re: Is it worth giving Innervate on CD?

Postby aggixx » Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:57 am

I have it bound just to use on myself if I end up OOM somehow in really obscure situations, but it's really not worth using on other people unless you're literally standing there doing nothing during an encounter (and even then I wouldn't to do it personally because it can proc my Ticking Ebon Detonator :evil:).

I wouldn't blame people for asking though, Balance innervate is actually pretty not terrible and some people don't realize that a feral's is a lot worse.
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Re: Is it worth giving Innervate on CD?

Postby Cetlysm » Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:16 pm

Doesn't it give 3k~ mana now?
Thats maybe 1 renew or half a rejuv?
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Re: Is it worth giving Innervate on CD?

Postby aggixx » Fri Mar 21, 2014 8:47 pm

Cetlysm wrote:Doesn't it give 3k~ mana now?
Thats maybe 1 renew or half a rejuv?
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Even then it's sketchy. Our healers always fill up mana completely during that phase, and even if they didn't it can proc your TED (like I said in my previous post) if you have one.

Generally anytime you have a brief stop DPS call would be an ok time to do it, but there aren't really any (non-strat-specific) of those this tier.
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Re: Is it worth giving Innervate on CD?

Postby Elamari » Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:03 pm

I find it to be completely useless. I only use it on myself when I change specs so I can get into which ever form I need to be in, and even then it takes about 2 secs to give me enough mana. Sometimes I will use it on a healer after I have battle rezzed them, but as we have seen, its like half a spell's worth of mana :v

I it may be removed from Feral / Guardian and become baseline for Resto and Boomkin as a part of their "ability pruning". It makes more sense giving how useless it is to us.
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Re: Is it worth giving Innervate on CD?

Postby xahn » Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:07 pm

Hey are you sure that it only gives 3k mana for the healer? I thought it says that the least amount it will give is at least 7%

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Re: Is it worth giving Innervate on CD?

Postby Stenhaldi » Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:33 am

8% of your own mana pool.

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