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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby Shulanii » Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:56 pm

Hello, all!

With the new raid content, my guild is really looking to push through Firelands and to help, or to even keep up, I need to see a serious improvement in my dps. I would really appreciate some advice on ways to accomplish this. I know I have a lot of room for improvement.

Armory - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/alexstrasza/Shulanii/simple
For the week before this past week my cloak was Biting Chill (normal) http://www.wowhead.com/item=59348 with Swordguard Embroidery http://www.wowhead.com/spell=75178
A set of logs from the week before this past week (25 man) - http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/a099olywxb2u2nkg/ & http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ebt09e4f2ir6g938/
A set of logs from this past week (25 man) - http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/v5hxuzzrtpj7071e/ & http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/1t2u8pn84kp2w9hg/

Again, any constructive criticism and advice will be greatly appreciated and I look forward to receiving it and improving.

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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby Tinderhoof » Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:28 am

Shulanii wrote:Hello, all!

With the new raid content, my guild is really looking to push through Firelands and to help, or to even keep up, I need to see a serious improvement in my dps. I would really appreciate some advice on ways to accomplish this. I know I have a lot of room for improvement.

Armory - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/alexstrasza/Shulanii/simple
For the week before this past week my cloak was Biting Chill (normal) http://www.wowhead.com/item=59348 with Swordguard Embroidery http://www.wowhead.com/spell=75178
A set of logs from the week before this past week (25 man) - http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/a099olywxb2u2nkg/ & http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ebt09e4f2ir6g938/
A set of logs from this past week (25 man) - http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/v5hxuzzrtpj7071e/ & http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/1t2u8pn84kp2w9hg/

Again, any constructive criticism and advice will be greatly appreciated and I look forward to receiving it and improving.

Hey Shulanii. Welcome to the community.

I just got back from 4 days of camping and catching up on things. I will have a look tomorrow. Just didn't want you to think I missed your post.

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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby Tinderhoof » Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:52 pm

Ok Shulannii had some time to look over the logs and the gear.

It's still very early on in the current patch so everyone is still getting used to the encounters. Qbear reminds us often that while you are still doing progression it's all about survival. Better to do less then max dps if it ensures you keep doing dps through out the whole encounter.

In general looking at all of your logs I recomend focusing on our basics:
- Feral Faerie Fire. This is SUCH a powerful buff for Melee dps and Tank threat. This debuff is 5 minutes long and costs only a GCD to cast. No other ablity compares. You need to ensure that this is on the Boss at all times, and any add that will be around for any amount of time (even if you arn't doing damage to it). This benifits all melee dps and the tank. Do not let this fall off the boss for any reason. You don't need to wait till it's about to fall off either, just refresh it when you have a free GCD.

- Bleed/Buff uptimes. With the changes to 4.2 all of our physical damage has seen a strong buff. However bleeds still make up a very large portion of our damage output. Keeping Rip and Rake uptimes maximized is critical. With the amount of times the boss is suddenly no longer available to be attacked bleeds are the only things still ticking. If you ever have to swap targets at a prediectable time try and make sure you refresh Rake and Rip before you swap off. If you don't know when you have to do a swap at least try and Rake then swap and use SR to consume any extra points before you get on the new target.

Gear wise everything looks fine gem/enchant wise for a Mastery/Haste setup. A lot of Ferals are moving to a Hit/Exp capped builds, but it is not required. Happy shredding in Firelands!

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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby feisty » Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:58 am

Hey guys, I'm back after a while. IRL is really hectic so I've missed out on some of the 4.2 theorycrafting and other things (haven't even been able to do the new daily hub once...sigh).

But back to the relevant stuff. yesterday I've managed to go cat on Staghelm and tried to rip his face off to get the staff, alas he beat us...but only just (wiped on 6-7% several times due to slow stacking at the end; slow stacking resulted in cats pouncing in melee and wiping the raid).

Here's the log: http://worldoflogs.com/reports/8ior9wxsi42x7wka/
Armory link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/twisting-nether/Feisty/advanced

My armory is not completely representative, since I still primarily reforge to dodge and sometimes gem oddly, but nevertheless, I've fixxxed my specs as we discused and made some improvments to my gameplay (hopefully).

I'd appreciate, if you skimmed through WoL and dish out some handy pointers.

p.s. It's still better not to synch heroism/bloodlust and berserk right?

p.s.s. Some random Staghelm notes: My guild used hero at start so I started to wonder again...I pre-potted so I had the buff up when hero hit and potted again on berserk which came right after heroism ended (I waited so I had TF available). Thanks for the great tip for the scorpion phase (I moved back and forth, but if I can move less by just sliding a little I'll try that). When is the second time you guys use Berserk (scorpion or cat phase?); each phase has disadvantages (Staghelm pouncing or moving out of shred comfortable zone alot when he's the form of a scopion).

Cheers and welcome to the forums Shulanii.

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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby Racionen » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:31 am

Here's the log from our attempts tonight: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-44fmxfz7vdpet111/ . I'm Racionen, and looking for feedback on the longer attempts on both Baleroc and Alysrazor. On Baleroc, I was part of the melee crystal Torment group, which shouldn't affect DPS at all, since all that happens in melee range. On Alysrazor, I'm playing Starfox. The biggest issue I have on Alysrazor is maintaining a rotation while flying all over the place and regenerating energy at an absurd rate, so any tips for that would also be appreciated. I don't currently use any move suggestion addons, but I do run timers in NeedToKnow for the various buffs/debuffs.

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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby Tinderhoof » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:18 pm

feisty wrote:Hey guys, I'm back after a while. IRL is really hectic so I've missed out on some of the 4.2 theorycrafting and other things (haven't even been able to do the new daily hub once...sigh).

But back to the relevant stuff. yesterday I've managed to go cat on Staghelm and tried to rip his face off to get the staff, alas he beat us...but only just (wiped on 6-7% several times due to slow stacking at the end; slow stacking resulted in cats pouncing in melee and wiping the raid).

Here's the log: http://worldoflogs.com/reports/8ior9wxsi42x7wka/
Armory link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/twisting-nether/Feisty/advanced

My armory is not completely representative, since I still primarily reforge to dodge and sometimes gem oddly, but nevertheless, I've fixxxed my specs as we discused and made some improvments to my gameplay (hopefully).

I'd appreciate, if you skimmed through WoL and dish out some handy pointers.

p.s. It's still better not to synch heroism/bloodlust and berserk right?

p.s.s. Some random Staghelm notes: My guild used hero at start so I started to wonder again...I pre-potted so I had the buff up when hero hit and potted again on berserk which came right after heroism ended (I waited so I had TF available). Thanks for the great tip for the scorpion phase (I moved back and forth, but if I can move less by just sliding a little I'll try that). When is the second time you guys use Berserk (scorpion or cat phase?); each phase has disadvantages (Staghelm pouncing or moving out of shred comfortable zone alot when he's the form of a scopion).

Cheers and welcome to the forums Shulanii.

Hey again Feisty.

Because it looks like you were BearCatElf for Gatekeeper I didn't look to hard into that fight. Pro tip, Torment BAD! ;^ )

I think you did pretty well on the staghelm fight. As the night went on it looked like you were able to switch off being the the spirits (I hate that duty) and just focus on the boss. This boosted your bleed up times quite a bit. Farie Fire up time got a lot better, and you were making use of Feral Charge.
I have 2 tips for you that I found last night during our kill.
1. If you are lucky enough to not have to hard swap to the Spirit of Flames you can still do some damage to them with out hurting your boss dps any. When he does the leap out (and FC is on cooldown) you can target the spirit and let white damage take over till Staghelm gets back to the tank. Remember no attacks that give combo points. If you are about to cap on energy you can throw out a swipe.
2. During Scorpion phase you can sit about half under one of the claws and half behind it. You will still share the swipe damage with the raid and you can shred with out moving. I think that they gave him the 240 degree treatment. The reason being is you will still get parries even though you can shred. Don't know if this is a bug or not.

In answer to your Berserk questions:
- The last time I saw Yawning run some numbers on it (Pre 4.1) it didn't really make much of a difference if you did Berserk during Bloodlust or not. I think as long as you arn't capping energy it still shouldn't make to much of a difference.
- If you find the sweet spot on Scorpion you won't have to move at all so Berserk during this phase is MUCH better. Even if you have to move a little you are still having 100% uptime on the boss even if it's not 100% shred time. During cat he gets out of range to often and your hasted Physical attacks will be wasted.

Hope that helps.
Keep on Shredding.

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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby Tinderhoof » Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:01 pm

Racionen wrote:Here's the log from our attempts tonight: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-44fmxfz7vdpet111/ . I'm Racionen, and looking for feedback on the longer attempts on both Baleroc and Alysrazor. On Baleroc, I was part of the melee crystal Torment group, which shouldn't affect DPS at all, since all that happens in melee range. On Alysrazor, I'm playing Starfox. The biggest issue I have on Alysrazor is maintaining a rotation while flying all over the place and regenerating energy at an absurd rate, so any tips for that would also be appreciated. I don't currently use any move suggestion addons, but I do run timers in NeedToKnow for the various buffs/debuffs.

Thanks!

Hey Racionen. Welcome to the community.

Wow your raid make up isn't something you see every day. Not to many folks run with 3 feral dps. Must be nice to have a Mangle bot + Faire Fire bot and they arn't even the same person.

Baleroc - You did pretty good here. Nice bleed up times on the boss, and you made use of your cooldowns while taking torment stacks. A few tips:
- If you don't have T11 4p (I know you don't) you should just use SI and Barkskin at the same time. Because they both last 12 seconds you might as well have 12 seconds of 70% damage reduction instead of 4 seconds of 20%, 6 seconds of 70% and 6 seconds of 50%. If you hit them both at 6 stacks you can hold out to 18 stacks with no sweat. Your other ferals look like they still have 4p. Have them hit SI first for th 18 second and hit Barkskin after 6 seconds.
- Try and make sure you are making the most of your abilities. You had a 6:15 kill, but only used Berserk once (and not during either of your pots). You should be able to fit 3 in with no trouble. Make sure you line up at least one when you pot. It's very easy to lose focus on this boss with having to manage the crystal swaps. Just try to relax and watch your cooldown timers so you can TF Berserk and Pot for maxium results.

Aly - Pretty much the same advise here as with Baleroc. Aly is a fight with a lot going on and it's easy to lose focus. The most importent thing in this fight as a flyer is maximizing your Alysra's Razor Blazing Power, and Wings of Flame buffs. I highly recomend you get Power Auras and make a design for each with a counter. This will let you know right away if you missed a ring and if its critical you get the next one. It's ok to slow dps on Aly to make sure you are stacking Blazing Power as often as possible.

Don't forget about Berserk. You want to be saving it for the burn phases. With ~120% crit during Berserk you can be pulling off a FB every 3-5 GCD's. You want to line up TF, Berserk, for every burn phase. Save the pot for when you you were able to refresh Blazing power on the ground (if you can). Also be nice to your other flyers and Stampeding Roar so they can get feathers faster too (or have one of your minions do it).

Hope this helps.
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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby Racionen » Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:54 am

Thanks for the tips! I know my Berserk usage is spotty, and it's something I'm aiming to improve. I've had threat issues burning it on the pull, even with Cower, so I tend to wait...and then forget. I went and grabbed Ovale last night, and saw a significant improvement on the target dummy. I thought I understood the mechanics well enough to read my own timers, but evidently that's not the case!

I am lucky, for now, to have a Mangle/FF bot. I think we probably all throw up at least one of those, and my debuff monitor (NeedToKnow) is set to show those regardless of who puts them up. As we grow out of T11, I suspect Mangle/FF bot should probably be delegated to the weakest feral in the raid.

I'll pass on the Baleroc tips to our other ferals as well, and I know our healers would love to heal someone with 18+ stacks!

For Alys, I did a better job the following night. I (attempted to) use Berserk on the pull after I'm behind her, and then after my Alysra's Razor falls off during Burnout or Ignition. While Alysra's Razor is up, Berserk would definitely energy cap me.

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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby Casix » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:23 pm

Hello!
Just found this wonderfull site, and seeked some advice on a question,
i have my feral alt druid, i was wondering if my damage is acceptable for my gear but to start off with;
This was a tradepug , i was raidleading, had to type a few things midencounter like "get to star" stack etc, i forgot totally mindlessly about faerie ferie applying >_<
Anyway:
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-m5fpcy10wblt8tgq/ - Logs
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/h ... ear/simple - Armory - Havnet got shoulder / head enchants yet
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2 of the fights im very interrested in respone to is Valiona since my dps looked quite high there, and Al akir, where im in front of boss whole p2.
Would like some feedback to those logs and suggestion to improvements.
Thanx, Casix

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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby feisty » Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:10 am

Thanks Tinder for the quick reply. Btw, should we ferals have a "show your UI" thread for ourselves, to try and trade tips and tricks on that particular topic?

Welcome Casix.

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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby Shandrahyl » Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:25 am

The feelin of high-Valiona/Theralion DPS is normal. That fight is just awesome for Feral's. If the tactic says that the blackout & the meteor's are brought to the tail of the active dragon u dont have to move in anyway (maybe just to follow the drake if the tank moves it away cuz of flames or patches). In addition an addon for bosstimers (DBM, Bigwicks, w/e) gives u the chance to totally fresh up Rip & rake to maxtime befor the drakes are changing positions. So its a perfect fight for melee's + a little dps-boost for shorttime of multidotting.

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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby Casix » Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:16 am

Shandrahyl wrote:The feelin of high-Valiona/Theralion DPS is normal. That fight is just awesome for Feral's. If the tactic says that the blackout & the meteor's are brought to the tail of the active dragon u dont have to move in anyway (maybe just to follow the drake if the tank moves it away cuz of flames or patches). In addition an addon for bosstimers (DBM, Bigwicks, w/e) gives u the chance to totally fresh up Rip & rake to maxtime befor the drakes are changing positions. So its a perfect fight for melee's + a little dps-boost for shorttime of multidotting.


Right that would explain it, thanx.

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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby Triplebuses » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:02 am

Tinderhoof wrote:2. During Scorpion phase you can sit about half under one of the claws and half behind it. You will still share the swipe damage with the raid and you can shred with out moving. I think that they gave him the 240 degree treatment. The reason being is you will still get parries even though you can shred. Don't know if this is a bug or not.


Hi Tinderhoof, could you please draw a little drawing to illustrate this ?

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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby Konungr » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:33 am

@ Triplebuses, get underneath one of his claws as close to him as you can, Once you are able to Shred, while under the claw, you should still be in range to take the cleave.

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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby Tinderhoof » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:05 pm

Konungr wrote:@ Triplebuses, get underneath one of his claws as close to him as you can, Once you are able to Shred, while under the claw, you should still be in range to take the cleave.

Ya he said it better then I did. Do this ^

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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby Triplebuses » Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:51 pm

Thank you for your answer Konungr ;)

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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby shinryu » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:04 am

So, just a quick general gearing question, today I picked up the 384 Ruthless Gladiator necklace with Exp on it (hunter that pvped didn't want it, so figured I'd grab it for pvp since I didn't have a neck). But I've been wondering if I could use it in pve as well, as the only neck I have atm is the 359 Necklace of Strife, and Alaron's generalized guide said to subtract 20 ilvl pts, which would make it a bit higher (and also help to get exp capped easier). So yeah...opinions on whether it's worth it or not?

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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby Nean » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:17 am

Good Morning.

I guess I'm doing something wrong in my raid. I guess my dps should be higher. As I'm the only cat and even the only feral druid I have noone to talk about or even to compare too.
We're raiding firelands as one of the last 25-men-guild on my server.

If there is anything that should be improved please tell me, I will work on it.

eu.battle.net/wow/de/character/aegwynn/Nean/

http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/144979/

Specially the fire birdy (first attempts on the ground, afterwards the first time in the air...so maybe not knowing the fight in practice might explain some low dps) was my problem. Lord Ryolith isn't that much of a problem, Shannox has not been killed by me and Bethilac...well, on the web.

I reforged towards Hit/Exp-Cap, maybe trespassing the exp-cap at the moment, which is going to be changed tonight.
I tried raiding under a pure haste-reforge, which is not perfect at all cause there's neither a perfect setup nor a lag-free game (Laggwynn).

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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby Tinderhoof » Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:25 pm

shinryu wrote:So, just a quick general gearing question, today I picked up the 384 Ruthless Gladiator necklace with Exp on it (hunter that pvped didn't want it, so figured I'd grab it for pvp since I didn't have a neck). But I've been wondering if I could use it in pve as well, as the only neck I have atm is the 359 Necklace of Strife, and Alaron's generalized guide said to subtract 20 ilvl pts, which would make it a bit higher (and also help to get exp capped easier). So yeah...opinions on whether it's worth it or not?

I think the more agility part is decent. It kinda sucks not having a secondary stat that is useful but you can get buy till you get a good replacement. The Valor neck or Rag's will do nicely. Just make sure if you want to stay capped that you have a plan to make up the lost Exp when you swap it.

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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby monxide » Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:46 am

Hi there again, please take a look at my recent log:
http://worldoflogs.com/reports/ysd077x8 ... 299&e=9601

armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/% ... %82/simple

I know, numbers look pretty impressive, but thing that keep bugging me - average shred crits for 43k - thats far beyond my average shred crits, and other things like rake and rip ticks looks bigger than usuall as well.
I'm usually rolling at something like 27.5-28k dps at the patchwerk-style fights, but this time i had hit bout 30k without DI\tricks and i was not on target 100% of time (debuff soaking). Looks like some kind of bug here.

Had fun log at shennox there as well, being afk 1 minute from start of pull, but even then managed to get in to ranked top 100, lol.

Also, some reforging advices would be highly appreciated as well.

P.S. Sorry for my crappy english : (

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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby Gralle » Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:49 pm

Hei all,

Long time reader first time poster.
Not sure if this is the correct place to post this, but here goes.

I just have a question. Was reading around and found this on EJ forum:

Post 48: http://elitistjerks.com/f73/t123596-fer ... ntimes/p2/

I have concluded that berserk halves ONLY the initial cost of ferocious bite, therefor reducing its highest possible energy cost from 60 to 48. This causes a full energy ferocious bite to be less dpe than shred, ie bad decision during berserk.
Note1: that while shred doubles in dpe during berserk a full energy ferocious bite only increases by 1.25

Note2: These calculations source from Simcraft t12 (no scale factors.)
W/O Berserk
Shred DPE: 636.5
No surplus energy
Ferocious Bite DPE: 846.6
Full energy
Ferocious Bite DPE: 705.5

With Berserk
Shred DPE: 1273.1
No surplus energy
Ferocious Bite DPE: 1693.2
Full energy
Ferocious Bite DPE: 891.2

In short, full energy fb's should be avoided and replaced by small energy fb's whenever possible.

Thanks to Lolich for assistance with computations


In short, full energy fb's should be avoided and replaced by small energy fb's whenever possible in berserk.
What do you guys think about this?

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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby Tinderhoof » Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:24 am

Nean wrote:Good Morning.

I guess I'm doing something wrong in my raid. I guess my dps should be higher. As I'm the only cat and even the only feral druid I have noone to talk about or even to compare too.
We're raiding firelands as one of the last 25-men-guild on my server.

If there is anything that should be improved please tell me, I will work on it.

eu.battle.net/wow/de/character/aegwynn/Nean/

http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/144979/

Specially the fire birdy (first attempts on the ground, afterwards the first time in the air...so maybe not knowing the fight in practice might explain some low dps) was my problem. Lord Ryolith isn't that much of a problem, Shannox has not been killed by me and Bethilac...well, on the web.

I reforged towards Hit/Exp-Cap, maybe trespassing the exp-cap at the moment, which is going to be changed tonight.
I tried raiding under a pure haste-reforge, which is not perfect at all cause there's neither a perfect setup nor a lag-free game (Laggwynn).

Thank you.

Hi Nean. Sorry for my delayed reply, I thought I had answered your question but I don't think I posted it right. So here goes.

Gear suggestions. I would say your english is a lot better then my Deutsch. Going from pictures and guesses you look pretty good on your gearing and reforging selections. I would change the gems in your pants to 2 40 agi gems. Getting the socket bonus loses you 20 agi so its really not worth it.

I am having some issues finding your attmepts in the logs. I can say that being on Rhyoliths legs, or being a taunter for Beth are really sucky jobs for us due to our mechanics (target switching and time off boss). For Aly I highly recomend that you get power aura's and make an aura to track your Wings of Flame buff. Know when you might be about to drop out the sky and focus on getting through the rings. They are more importent then doing dps on here while in the air. Keep Savage roar up as much as possible as your white attacks will be a large part of your damage when haste is sped up so much. Once you master keeping your buff up then you can start trying to work FB's in as often as possible while keeping the bleeds up. Just kinda take it one step at a time and you will be fine. Good luck!

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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby Tinderhoof » Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:01 am

monxide wrote:Hi there again, please take a look at my recent log:
http://worldoflogs.com/reports/ysd077x8 ... 299&e=9601

armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/% ... %82/simple

I know, numbers look pretty impressive, but thing that keep bugging me - average shred crits for 43k - thats far beyond my average shred crits, and other things like rake and rip ticks looks bigger than usuall as well.
I'm usually rolling at something like 27.5-28k dps at the patchwerk-style fights, but this time i had hit bout 30k without DI\tricks and i was not on target 100% of time (debuff soaking). Looks like some kind of bug here.

Had fun log at shennox there as well, being afk 1 minute from start of pull, but even then managed to get in to ranked top 100, lol.

Also, some reforging advices would be highly appreciated as well.

P.S. Sorry for my crappy english : (

Hey Monxide.

I don't see a single issue with your reforging or your english. You have hit the hit/exp caps with out going over, you have flame kitty staff and are swapping trinkets on a per fight basis like a pro.

Looking at the Baleroc fight you my friend hit the one of those "Stars alligned" pulls. You overachived in crit chance by about 5% for your shred, and you were getting about 1 OOC proc every 10 seconds. Add that to a rather nice 96% rake and 91% rip up times you did just great. Looking at my logs for the week, I had almost exactly the same up times as you, (I even pulled threat at the same time you did). For me I was getting an average Shred crit at 36k. Seeing as how you have about 150 more agi then I and you have the new staff your shred damage seems right on.
Just remember if you end up pulling and getting the tank debuff (blazing glory) you should be removed from soaking the tormented debuff. When the healers try to heal you they will not gain stacks, and will trigger their tank cooldown when they heal you.
All in all, great job. Keep it up!

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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby Shulanii » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:12 pm

A little late, but thank you for your advice. I did see an improvement in my dps, and I think I'll stick with my new hit/exp build as it feels a bit smoother. Again, thank you.

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Re: Let's talk about logs (Gearing and Execution advise)

Postby xslicx » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:16 am

http://worldoflogs.com/rankings/players ... Cat_Druid/

11 logs of druids doing over 40k? The ones after are 31k.

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