StamPede

[Dabeasty Profile]

Just checking...charge/ravage is better than bear charge/haste buff/shift cat right?

[Alaron]

Almost certainly. If you want to do the math yourself, just figure out how much extra haste 30% is (let's just go with a round number and say 300) for 8sec. My (old) RSV calculations show 1 haste = 1 dps, roughly, so 300 haste = 300 dps * 8sec = 2400 damage.

Pretty sure Ravage will hit for more than that.

[Eteocles Profile]

Speaking of stampede (I'm threadjacking here), has anyone done the math as to just how good/bad running out and charging in to ravage is during fights? I haven't seen actual calculations for it though perhaps I'm blind. It seems like a bunch of talent points and one more annoying thing to do during fights.

[Alaron]

Well, it really depends on how long it takes you to go out/in. Basically its:
Avg. Ravage Damage - (MeleeHitsLost * MeleeAvgDmg) - (OOC/FS Proc Chance Lost) - (FC energy loss).

Some quick handwavy numbers: Avg. Ravage is probably 18k, Avg. Melee is 2k, Attack Speed is .7 sec. That gives you 5 secs or so; factor in the loss of energy from the FC and the lost OOC/FS procs and you're probably looking at 3-4 secs.
(As in, if you can get out and back in within 3-4 secs, it's a DPS increase.)
Overall, it's probably not worth it.

[tbot Profile]

Ya I probably wouldn't worry about the situations where you are glued to the boss. Chances of running out and back and getting a profit on it aren't good. On the otherhand... most bosses seperate you from the boss so you can make use of this, something I'm still getting used to.

Marrowgar, Rotface, LDW (ghosts), Putricide, BP, BQL, Valithria, Sindy, LK. Heck even gunship you can fc the mage.

It's kinda fun to know every time you get knocked outa your perfect rotation you get to FC and slap them real hard.

[Mihir Profile]

Ya I probably wouldn't worry about the situations where you are glued to the boss. Chances of running out and back and getting a profit on it aren't good. On the otherhand... most bosses seperate you from the boss so you can make use of this, something I'm still getting used to.

Marrowgar, Rotface, LDW (ghosts), Putricide, BP, BQL, Valithria, Sindy, LK. Heck even gunship you can fc the mage.

It's kinda fun to know every time you get knocked outa your perfect rotation you get to FC and slap them real hard.

FCing the gunship mage from halfway your rocket jump just looks awesome (with spamming a mouseover charge macro and keeping the mouse cursor in the direction of the mage), every druid should try it.

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#showtooltip Feral Charge(Cat Form)
/cast [stance:1,@mouseover,harm,nodead][stance:1]Feral Charge(Bear Form);[stance:3,@mouseover,harm,nodead][stance:3]Feral Charge(Cat Form);[nostance:1,nostance:3]!Cat Form

[tbot Profile]

FCing the gunship mage from halfway your rocket jump just looks awesome (with spamming a mouseover charge macro and keeping the mouse cursor in the direction of the mage), every druid should try it.

The other one that looks awesome is FC'ing LK after kicking a shadowtrap
It's my favourite activity for when wipes are called.