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Repost of Feral DPS gear list Part2 (until I can fix IE bug)

Postby Alaron » Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:01 pm

This is Part 2 of my feral DPS gear list. This list focuses on items available from raids, and bottoms out with heroic blues; see Part 1 for a Pre-Raid list. Overall, this list is rather boring; with the extreme value of agility and the consolidation of 10m/25m gear, pretty much, you get the highest ilvl piece you can.

Methodology: I used Mew to compute relative stat values for a level 85 feral druid (values listed at bottom of post). I then created a custom weighting on wowhead with these numbers, and recorded the results below. Due to reforging, item lists are more stratified then they used to be; as such, I’ve divided the item list into tiers roughly corresponding with ilevel. (Short version: don’t worry significantly about getting the top item in a tier, just look to upgrade tiers. The amount of +agi (or the amount of gem slots for agi gems) on an item is the most important factor, generally.) Also note that the values for blue items may differ somewhat from part 1; I need to go back and redo part 1 with the new stat values, but that’ll probably happen after the next patch.

Slots are sorted by importance. A weapon upgrade is VASTLY more important than a bracer upgrade, for example, so I’ve listed those first. I will not be including PvP gear in the list; for a rough computation, knock 13 points off the item’s ilvl (to account for the useless resil). Reduce this penalty by half if you have the 2pc PvP bonus (+70 agi), and eliminate it if you have the 4pc PvP bonus (+180 agi). Yes, this means that having the 4pc Bloodthirsty PvP set is BETTER than 4pc heroic gear, and the 4pc Vicious set is better than non-tier raid gear. Not by much, but a good 5% or so. (See WoWHead comparison link here and here) The best offset piece is probably Tsanga’s. (Yes, the 4p set bonus is worth it.) Even if you don’t PvP, I recommend all ferals get the PvP gloves if there’s any chance they’ll be on regular interrupt duty. The energy savings on Skull Bash from the gloves outweigh any drop in stats.

Finally, drop location for heroic items are still questionable. I may also be missing some stuff; let me know. The items from Throne of the Four Winds are randomly enchanted, with four possible combinations: Stormblast (crit/hit), Windflurry (crit/haste), Windstorm (crit/mastery), and Zephyr (haste/mastery). Obviously, the latter two are better choices.

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Weapon

1. Malevolence, H Halfus. (300.44)
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2. Akirus the Worm-Breaker, H Magmaw. (281.01)
3. Vicious Gladiator’s Pike/Staff (rank 2), PvP. (279.73)
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4. Malevolence, Halfus. (266.19)
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5. Akirus the Worm-Breaker, Magmaw. (248.97)
6. Vicious Gladiator’s Pike/Staff (rank 1), PvP. (247.81)
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7. Elementium Poleaxe, Blacksmithing BoE. (235.80)
8. Seliza’s Spear, H LC. (235.00)
9. Mobus’s Vile Halberd, Vash’jir World Boss. (234.92)
10. Darkling Staff, H Stonecore. (234.49)
11. Spear of Trailing Shadows, Baradin/Hellscream Revered. (230.16)

Happily, a perfectly itemized BiS weapon drops from the first boss in Bastion, and a solid alternative drops from the first boss in Blackwing Descent. Magmaw is very puggable, and Halfus is close to it. (Note that Akirus is a strength weapon, so while it’s an upgrade from a 346 blue, it’s a much better upgrade for strength-based classes. Don’t be greedy.)

Head

1. Stormrider’s Headpiece, H Nefarian. (106.12)
2. Membrane of C’Thun, H Cho’gall. (102.20)
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3. Tsanga’s Helm, Bastion of Twilight BoE. (99.27)
4. Agile Bio-Optic Killshades, Engineering-only BoP. (~97)
5. Stormrider’s Headpiece, Nefarian. (94.03)
6. Membrane of C’Thun, Cho’gall. (90.20)
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7. Mask of Vines, 2200 JP. (83.57)
8. Helm of Numberless Shadows, H Stonecore. (83.02)

Tsanga’s Helm is a very nice BoE that drops in Bastion of Twilight. Grab it if you can. If not, the tier helm is okay. C’thun is less than desirable since its socket bonus is haste, not agility, but it’s better than a blue.

Legs

1. Stormrider’s Legguards, TBD. (117.92)
2. Wind Stalker Leggings, H Al’Akir. (random)
3. Aberration’s Leggings, H Maloriak. (112.54)
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4. Stormrider’s Legguards, Argaloth/2200 VP. (105.11)
5. Wind Stalker Leggings, Al’Akir. (random)
6. Aberration’s Leggings, Maloriak. (100.35)
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8. Leggings of the Burrowing Mole, 2200 JP. (93.78)
9. Beauty’s Chew Toy, H Blackrock Caverns. (88.33)

Do you feel lucky, punk? (And by punk, I mean all you new troll druids. Get a haircut.) The tier piece is BiS here, and is the best value/pt for your VP; of course, if you buy it and it drops off Argaloth next week, you’ll be ever-so-slightly annoyed. :). Wind Stalker’s can be pretty good if you get the right random enchants (plus it’s the only legs piece with a red socket), but I’ll still prefer tier here.

Chest

1. Sark of the Unwatched, H Atramedes. (117.73)
2. Stormrider’s Raiment, H Halfus. (112.11)
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3. Morrie’s Waywalker Wrap, World Drop. (104.93)
4. Sark of the Unwatched, Atramedes. (104.93)
5. Stormrider’s Raiment, 2200 VP. (100.12)
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6. Assassin’s Chestplate, Leatherworking BoE. (91.08)
7. Defias Brotherhood Vest, H Deadmines. (89.69)
8. Vest of Misshapen Hides, H Grim Batol. (89.31)
9. Hieroglyphic Vest, H Halls of Origination. (88.37)
10. Tunic of Sinking Envy, 2200 JP. (87.02)

The tier piece is pretty poor here, so most people will end up picking it up anyway as they find things to use VP on. Morrie’s and/or Sark are much better pieces, though they’d be perfect if they had a +agi socket bonus. If you can’t get a Tsanga’s, this would be my 2nd choice for your offset + tier.

Trinkets
Name Ilvl Notes Score
Essence of the Cyclone (H) 372 363 agi; 2178 crit/10s proc 1518.066
Prestor’s Talisman of M. (H) 372 363 agi; 2178 haste/15s proc 1496.286
Fluid Death 359 321 hit; 38 agix10 on atk 1476.252
Tia’s Grace (H) 346 285 mast; 34 agix10 on atk 1383.6
Essence of the Cyclone 359 321 agi; 1926 crit/10s proc 1342.422
Key to the Endless Chamber (H) 346 285 hit; 1710 agi/15s proc 1324.68
Left Eye of Rajh (H) 346 285 exp; 1710 agi/10s proc 1324.68
Prestor’s Talisman of M. 359 321 agi; 1926 haste/15s proc 1323.162
Heart of Rage (H) 372 363 exp; 2178 str/20s proc 1322.772
Crushing Weight (H) 372 363 str; 2178 haste/15s proc 1238.556
Tia’s Grace (N) 333 252 mast; 30 agix10 on atk 1221.48
Heart of Rage 359 321 exp; 1926 str/20s proc 1218.516
Unsolvable Riddle 359 321 mast; 1605 agi/20s on use 1208.565
License to Slay 359 321 hit; 38 strx10 on atk 1206.452
Grace of the Herald (H) (bugged) 346 285 agi; 1710 crit/10s proc 1191.87
Unheeded Warning (est) 359 321 agi; +25% melee/10s proc 1172.63
Skardyn’s Grace (H) 346 285 agi; 1425 mast/20s on use 1158.05
DMC: Hurricane (est) 359 321 agi; 5000 dmg proc (ppm?) 1138.63
Crushing Weight 359 321 str; 1926 haste/15s proc 1095.252
Heart of Solace (H) 346 285 haste; 1710 str/20s proc 1090.41
Skardyn’s Grace (N) 333 252 agi; 1260 mast/20s on use 1023.96
Impatience of Youth 359 321 mast; 1605 str/20s on use 1018.64
Figurine – Demon Panther 346 285 hit; 1425 agi/20s on use 1008.045

See my trinket post for analysis + comments. Basically, you want H Tia’s and one of Unsolvable Riddle, H Eye, or H Key to start raiding, and look to upgrade your offset trinket to Fluid Death or one of the epic proc trinkets. Don’t use strength trinkets unless you have no other option. (Yes, these need links, I’ll get to it eventually.) There are several trinket changes coming in the patch, which I’ll be analyzing in the future.

Hands

1. Double Attack Handguards, Chimeraon. (86.00)
2. Stormrider’s Grips, TBD. (81.69)
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3. Double Attack Handguards, Chimeraon. (76.50)
4. Liar’s Handwraps/Stormbolt Gloves, Dragonmaw/Wildhammer Exalted. (73.03)
5. Stormrider’s Grips, 1650 VP. (72.66)
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6. Gloves of Haze, H Vortex Pinnacle. (68.07)
7. Sticky Fingers, 1650 JP. (68.01)

None of the options here are well-optimized for ferals. The DA Handguards are best, but only slightly, so just stick with Tier (which you should use only when you can get the set bonus, since it’s inferior to the rep piece).

Shoulders

1. Poison Protocol Pauldrons, H Omnitron Council. (87.11)
2. Stormrider’s Spaulders, TBD. (82.21)
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3. Poison Protocol Pauldrons, Omnitron Council. (77.46)
4. Stormrider’s Spaulders, H Cho’gall. (73.03)
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5. Thieving Spaulders, H Shadowfang Keep. (65.21)
6. Caridean Epaulettes, H Throne of the Tides. (64.90)
7. Embrace of the Night, 1650 JP. (64.86)

The PPPs are a very good feral cat piece, but you’ll eventually want the Shoulders to round out Tier. 3rd offset choice if you can’t get an offset helm or chest.

Waist

1. Dispersing Belt, H Twilight Council. (82.21)
2. Wind Stalker Belt, H Council of Wind. (random)
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3. Dispersing Belt, Twilight Council. (73.03)
4. Wind Stalker Belt, Council of Wind. (random)
5. Belt of Nefarious Whispers, Leatherworking BoE. (71.69)
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6. Sash of Musing, 1650 JP. (68.39)
7. Red Beam Cord, H Halls of Origination. (65.21)
8. Quicksand Belt, Ramkahen Revered. (64.73)
9. Belt of a Thousand Mouths, Akma’hat(Rare Uldum mob). (62.52)

The LW belt will come up a bit in value with the new gem socket, especially if it’s red (though that’s doubtful). Windstalker w/Mastery is your best option, though all are fairly close.

Feet

1. Storm Rider’s Boots, H Halfus. (85.75)
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2. Storm Rider’s Boots, Halfus. (76.17)
3. Treads of Fleeting Joy, 1650 VP. (73.03)
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4. Crafty’s Gaiters, H Lost City. (68.01)
5. VanCleef’s Boots, H Deadmines. (67.58)
6. Boots of the Predator, H Shadowfang Keep. (65.59)

Hey, thanks Blizzard! Let’s call an offset piece the same name as the set piece to confuse everyone! /sigh. They’re from Halfus, so shouldn’t be difficult to acquire. The VP boots are not great.

Neck

1. Necklace of Strife, H Valiona. (62.31)
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2. Necklace of Strife, Valiona. (55.15)
3. Don Rodrigo’s Fabulous Necklace, World Drop. (54.77, underbudget)
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4. Brazen Elementium Medallion, Jewelcrafting BoE. (50.03)
5. Pendant of the Lightless Grotto, H Stonecore. (49.09)
6. Acorn of the Daughter Tree, Guardians of Hyjal Revered. (48.75)
7. Entwined Elementium Choker, Jewelcrafting BoE. (48.64)
8. Amulet of Dull Dreaming, 1250 JP. (46.69)

Well, this is easy. At least the Strife necklace is well-itemized.

Rings

1. Lightning Conductor Band, H Omnitron. (59.24)
2. Mistral Circle, H Council of Wind. (random)
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3. Signet of the Elder Council, Earthen Ring Exalted. (55.15)
4. Mistral Circle, Council of Wind. (random)
5. Lightning Conductor Band, Omnitron. (52.43)
6. Ring of Rivalry (STR), H Valiona. (52.39)
7. Elementium Destroyer’s Ring, Jewelcrafting BoE. (52.34)
8. Gilnean Ring of Ruination, World Drop. (51.62)
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9. Skullcracker Ring, H Blackrock Caverns. (49.09)
10. Ring of Blinding Stars, H Halls of Origination. (48.72)
11. Terrath’s Signet of Balance, Therazane Revered. (48.36)
12. Band of Blades, Jewelcrafting BoE. (47.70)
13. Nautilus Ring, H ToT. (46.69)
14. Mirage Ring, H Lost City. (46.39) (may not exist)
15. Ring of Dun Algaz, H Grim Batol. (46.04)

Rep ring + Mistral(w/Mastery) is best. The Elementium ring is so well itemized that is climbs up a tier, but good luck finding someone who can make it.

Back

1. Cloak of Biting Chill, H Maloriak. (62.77)
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2. Cloak of Biting Chill, Maloriak. (55.56)
3. Dory’s Finery, World Drop. (52.43)
4. Viewless Wings, 1250 VP. (52.43)
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5. Cloak of Thredd, H Deadmines. (49.09)
6. Kaleki Cloak, H Lost City. (48.14)
7. Razor-Edged Cloak, Leatherworking BoE. (48.13)
8. Twitching Shadows, H Blackrock Caverns. (46.69)
9. Cape of the Brotherhood, H Deadmines. (45.96)
10. Sotftwind Cape, Earthen Ring Revered. (45.96)

Hold out for the cloak from Maloriak if you can, though there’s not a ton of items to buy with VP.

Wrists

1. Parasitic Bands, H Magmaw. (62.77)
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2. Parasitic Bands, Magmaw. (55.56)
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3. Double Dealing Bracers, H Shadowfang Keep. (49.09)
4. Poison Fang Bracers. H Halls of Origination. (46.96)

Step 1. Get Parasitic Bands. Step 2. ??? Step 3. Pro..zzzzzzz.

Idol Relic

1. Relic of Golganneth, 700 VP. (37.09)
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2. Relic of Arathor, H Shadowfang Keep. (34.23)
3. Silver Inlaid Leaf, Inscription BoE. (34.18)
4. Sandshift Relic, H Blackrock Caverns. (34.02)

Well, there’s no other options…so there you go. VP sink.

Conclusion

Hopefully, a few more agility options pop up (especially neck/wrists), but I’m doubtful of that at this point. That said, for your VPs, you should be looking to get 2pT11 first (legs + chest or legs + hands) then Fluid Death, then the relic. If your raid is regularly getting tokens from Nef/Cho’gall, then go ahead and get your 4pT11 before anything else. Don’t worry too much about the bleed/dd damage changes coming in the patch; mastery still remains the best secondary stat and hit/exp remains the worse, so item ordering should (roughly) stay the same.

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Re: Repost of Feral DPS gear list Part2 (until I can fix IE

Postby Beatrix » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:02 pm

Thank you!

You are the best Ala!

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Re: Repost of Feral DPS gear list Part2 (until I can fix IE

Postby Alaron » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:53 pm

You're welcome!

I reuploaded the trinket table and made sure the XML didn't go with it this time. Can you check to see if it works now? (The original blog post, I mean.)

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Re: Repost of Feral DPS gear list Part2 (until I can fix IE

Postby shinryu » Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:19 pm

So after the tier legs, which would be the next best piece to upgrade in your opinion, presuming you have access to the next best option (like sark for chest and wildhammer gloves)?

Also what's your opinion on the Vicious Gladiator's relic (http://www.wowhead.com/item=61390)? I got it mainly because I had a weak 318 relic (the 346 one never dropped and I'm too stingy to spend several thousand gold on the boe one from inscription) and as none of the other relics have mastery anyways, I figured it was comparable in that regard with reforging crit to mastery and just living with resil.

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Re: Repost of Feral DPS gear list Part2 (until I can fix IE

Postby Alaron » Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:40 am

After legs, well, you want to get that 2p tier bonus ASAP. I'd probably go gloves.

(That said, for me, I bought Fluid Death first because 1) I got tired of forgetting to pop UR and 2) I claim it was named after my blog, even if it probably wasn't. :P)

Oh, the Vicious relic is fine, should be comparable to the 346's.

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Re: Repost of Feral DPS gear list Part2 (until I can fix IE

Postby shinryu » Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:37 am

Mkay, so saving to get chest and legs is a bad idea...dang VP cap.

Oh well, thanks for the reply!

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Re: Repost of Feral DPS gear list Part2 (until I can fix IE

Postby Tinderhoof » Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:04 am

I can confirm the heroic tier leg token is off of Meloraik. We just downed him tonight.

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