With 3.3 probably coming tomorrow, I’d like to remind everyone of the two changes we’re interested in: Mangle debuff duration buffed to 60s (from 12s) and the Glyph of Mangle being redesigned to give a flat +10% damage boost. I’ve already written on the overall DPS buff most ferals will see from this, but I’d like to quickly address something else. Some on the forums have raised the possibility of abandoning Shred entirely and shifting to a purely Mangle-based rotation (and switching the Shred glyph for a Mangle glyph). It’s not a horrible idea. It’s certainly a large DPS reduction (3-5%, depending on gear)….however, for fights where you have to unavoidably DPS from the front, or fights that are HEAVY movement/add fights, it may be superior. I wouldn’t recommend it for any fight in ICC currently, except maybe Dreamwalker…but who knows what Ruby Sanctum will look like.
Today, I’d like to take a look at the trinkets available to kitties in 3.3, and do some analysis on the best choices available. (Yes, I’m working on a post on DPS rotation mods as well, but that requires screenshots and installing and stuff, so that’ll take a few days.) There’s quite a few choices out there…some of the old items remain quite good, however. Let’s check them out. First, the list, sorted by location:
- Deathbringer’s Will (ICC25H) / Deathbringer’s Will (ICC25)
- Tiny Abomination in a Jar (ICC25H) / TinyAbomination in a Jar (ICC25)
- Whispering Fanged Skull (ICC10H) / Whispering Fanged Skull (ICC10)
- Death’s Verdict/Choice (TOC25H) Death’s Verdict/Choice (TOC25)
- Victor’s Call/VOTF (TOC10H) / Victor’s Call/VOTF (TOC 10)
- Comet’s Trail (Uld25H)
- Blood of the Old God (Uld25)
- Wrathstone (Uld25)
- Dark Matter (Uld10H)
- Mjolnir Runestone (Uld10H)
- Pyrite Infuser (Uld10)
- Grim Toll (Naxx25)
- Needle-Encrusted Scorpion (FOS H)
- Banner of Victory (TOC5 N)
- Herkuml War Token (60 EoFs)
- Shard of the Crystal Heart (50 EoTs)
- Mark of Supremacy (50 EoTs)
- Mirror of Truth (40 EoV’s)
- Darkmoon Card: Greatness (Turn-in from crafted Nobles Deck)
Before we jump in, the largest factor affecting the value of trinkets for ICC25 raiders is the critcap. Many of these trinkets have or proc crit. Crit has always been a decent stat for us…not as good as Agi or ArP, but better than anything else (not counting Str, since that’s not usually found as a secondary stat on leather). Once you reach the crit cap for white attacks, however (pretty easy in ICC25 gear), then crit drops in effectiveness. It’s not “bad,” so to speak, since it still affects your yellow attacks (especially with the 4pT10 bonus) but it becomes a worse stat to stack. At this point, you’ll be preferring ArPen proc trinkets until your ArPen is high enough, then Haste or AP.
ICC gives you three trinkets- one great, one meh, and one crap. Deathbringer’s Will is by far the BiS trinket for ferals. The static ArP really helps with stacking ArP (as any feral raiding ICC25 should be trying to do), and all of the procs are good for you. (Plus, you can shift to flight form and fly as a Taunka, stealth as a Taunka, etc. Really cool.) You’ll have to fight several others for a chance at it, though. Sadly, I haven’t seen one drop the past four weeks. The Tiny Abomination in a Jar is absolute crap, though. Don’t touch it. The proc’ed Mote attack uses your unimproved paw damage, and can’t proc OOC. It’s about as strong as a blue for us…just ew. Finally, the Whispering Fanged Skull from 10M is very good. Unfortunately, it has +crit (see above.) Good for ICC10, but falls off a bit after that.
Just like ICC, you have one great trinket and one mediocre. Death’s Verdict/Choice is an excellent trinket (currently my #2). Unfortunately, it has the same critcap problem as the WFS since it procs agility. The agi proc is so massive, though, that the increase in special attack crits mostly compensate. Victor’s Call/VOTF from 10M is pretty bad, unless you’re very well geared and have 0 expertise (ie the lack of expertise is causing you to be prematurely crit-capped).
Ulduar is trinket heaven, especially on hard mode. The cream of the crop here is the Mjolnir Runestone. Of the three ArP proc trinkets, this is the best in most situations, and remains a very good trinket until your ArP level is high enough to make the proc less useful. It’s better than the Scorpion since it procs on hit, not crit, giving it a better uptime. Comet’s Trail is also very good, and has no cap issues, but it’s not exactly easy to get (Algalon 25 drop). Blood of the Old God is decent, but the large amount of +hit makes it hard to use fully. If you can use it and keep under the +hit cap, it’s pretty good. The rest? Dark Matter is good but will critcap you very quickly (612 crit rating proc? Ouch), and it’s hard to get (Algalon 10). Wrathstone and Pyrite Infuser are obsolete, though they’re still decent and better than some other options.
Grim Toll is generally the worst of the three ArP trinkets, but it actually retains its value a bit longer. T10 gear tends to lack hit in favor of crit; if you’re critcapped, then GT can be used in place of MR or NES, and actually is the superior option (especially if you have enough ArP that you waste some of the proc from MR or NES). There’s several other trinkets here that are decent for starting ferals, though finding a Naxx run is almost impossible these days.
Besides some blue trinkets from the normal instances, there’s two you’re looking for: The Needle-Encrusted Scorpion from H FOS and the Banner of Victory from N TOC5. As previously mentioned, the Scorpion is a great trinket and remains competitive up though ICC25; however, it’s not as good as the Runestone, and depending on your situation, may be worse then Grim Toll. The Banner is a great starter trinket, seeing as you can grind N TOC until you get it- be prepared for a wait, though, because it only has a 7.5% drop rate.
The real star here is the Herkuml War Token. It’s expensive (60 EoF’s) but it’s currently the #2 BIS trinket, once you have enough ArP to devalue the ArP proc trinkets. Haste scales with haste and has no cap issues (so you really need the WF/IIT buffs to make this effective, but it’ll keep getting better). Shard of the Crystal Heart and Mark of Supremacy are much easier to obtain, but they’re pretty mediocre. They have tons of +hit, which isn’t a great stat for ferals at early gear levels…and once you get to higher gear levels, you’ll have access to better anyway. It’s an option if you’re unlucky with drops, I suppose. If you’re just starting out, the Mirror of Truth is still a very decent trinket, and cheap as well. Finally, the Darkmoon Card: Greatness remains very good for its item level, and it’s also a great tanking trinket. I highly recommend new feral druids picking one of these up if you can afford it.
Top 5 List/Conclusion:
To conclude, I’ve come up with three different Top 5 lists. Why 3? Well, a list including ICC 25 items isn’t very useful for an new player/alt just starting heroics. :P I’ve run appropriate gearsets with appropriate buffs through Rawr, and the numbers are below (100′s of dps…so 2.5 means 250 dps…take numbers as very loose approximations).
- Needle-Encrusted Scorpion (HFOS)- 2.5
- Darkmoon Card: Greatness (Crafted)- 2.1
- Banner of Victory (N TOC)- 1.8
- Mark of Supremacy (50 EoT’s)- 1.7 (assuming you can use all the hit)
- Mirror of Truth (40 EoV’s)- 1.6
The Scorpion and the DM:G are easily your best options at this level; the others are pretty interchangeable. If I was starting over, I’d purchase the DM:G and toss some random blue/green in the other slot until I got the Scorpion.
Pugger (TOC 25/ICC 10, no access to Algalon, saving EoF’s for T10):
- Whispering Fanged Skull (ICC 10)- 3.9
- Death’s Verdict/Choice (TOC 25)- 3.8
- Mjolnir Runestone/Needle-Encrusted Scorpion (Uld10HM/HFOS)- 3.5
- Darkmoon Card: Greatness (Crafted)- 2.8
- Banner of Victory (N TOC)- 2.3
Not much to say here: WFS/DV (or DC)/ArP trinket…pick two.
Raider (ICC 25)
- Deathbringer’s Will (ICC 25)- 5.6
- Herkuml War Token (60 EoF’s)- 4.9 (my #1 atm)
- Whispering Fanged Skull (ICC 10)- 4.7
- Death’s Verdict/Choice (TOC 25)- 4.6 (my #2 atm)
- Mjolnir Runestone/Needle-Encrusted Scorpion (Uld10HM/HFOS)- 4.6
Things get interesting here. DBW is massively better than the alternatives, but #2 is pretty close. The ArP trinket can fall anywhere from #2 to #5 (or lower) depending on your current amount of ArP, among other things. If you’re just starting ICC25, then it’ll be ranked higher; once you pass the ArP softcap, its value will drop. If you get to ICC hardmodes and start shooting for the hard ArP cap, there’s not much change: Heroic DBW, DBW, Herkuml, Heroic DV/DC, Heroic WFS, WFS.
Well, that should wrap it up for trinkets until Cata! If you disagree, have questions, or whatever, post a short comment here, or feel free to use the TFD forums. Thanks for reading!
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- Forums! This is the part I’m most excited about. Blogs are great for one-way conversations, but they tend to be lacking for in-depth discussion. I hope to build a good-sized community of fellow WoW players here who are interested in developing their skills. (Of course, if you just want to post lolcats, that’s totally cool too.) Please let me know what you think, either via comments or on the forum. I’m still working on the forum themes…it took me 3 hours tonight to figure out why my theme wasn’t displaying any buttons. Finally realized that the board language was set to American English (enUS) but the theme images were set up for British English (en). Bah.
- Wowhead tooltips! All those kitty gear guides that I posted previously? Now Powered by Wowhead (TM).
- Kickin’ styles! Well, sort of. This will be my first site, so I’ve taught myself bits of CSS, PHP, and phpBB over the past few days. I now know enough to be overconfident. :)
About the Ads:
You will quickly notice a small Google Adsense box on the new website, so I’ll address that now. This is up here primarily to appease my significant other, who wants to know why I waste so much time on some silly blog. :) I get a lot of traffic from search engines from people who come here for one of my guides and disappear–this is who I am targeting these ads at. Most of my regular visitors have some sort of adblock tool installed anyway, from what I understand, so hopefully this is not an issue. The forums and RSS feed will remain ad-free. (Unless someone offers me like three figures. Yeah, I’m cheap.)
Now that the site coding/design work is at a lull (for now), I’ve got several topics that I hope to knock out posts on soon.
- Cat Gearing Guide, Part 4 (ICC-25): Let’s get to the good stuff.
- Kitty Trinket Analysis: Should I use the Deathbringer’s Needle-Encrusted War Token, or the Whispering Verdict of Victory? We’ll figure it out!
- PanzerKitty: What to Do When the Boss Likes You
- Advanced Feline Concepts: A few tips on how to eke out extra bits of DPS on each encounter.
- Auto John F’ing Madden: How to use Ovale to maximize your DPS
- Why Hunters Must Die for Stealing our Weapons…err, okay, that’s enough for one day.
I’ll be adding many more sites to the blogroll…please post if I’d already talked to you, as I’ve got a lot going on right now. Enjoy the new site!
I haven’t put pen to paper fingers to keyboard recently on this blog, since I’ve actually buckled down and started working on a new self-hosted site for it. It’s actually up and running now, but I still have a bit more work to do on it before going public (should be sometime this week). I’ve got several topics that I’m excited to be covering.
We were pretty stretched for people last night, due to some unexpected cancellations/issues, so we decided to go do some Ulduar, after zerging Naxx for the weekly. (It’s a bit sad when you can down Anub’Rekhan in under a minute.) Apparently, CD had tried to get to Algalon-25, but never made it through Mimiron HM, and had set it aside when TOC came out. After a breezy clear, we get to Mimi, and our RL asks for those with healing off-specs to go heals for some learning attempts.
Now, I hadn’t healed in a while, but I still had a decent T9 set in my bags, so I threw that on, quickly set up my spell bindings in Vuhdo (lost all my settings in the move, haven’t healed since) and was ready to rock…I thought. (Note: I’ve never done 25M Ulduar past Auriaya, period.) Phase 1 wasn’t too bad, once we worked out spacing issues. Phase 2?
HOLY S***. HOW did people do this in Ulduar-level gear? My stream of consciousness was something like this:
Okay, our full-time resto druid can take over, I’m done now. Seriously. I looked at WoL, and the P2 raid damage is roughly equal to BQL raid damage, and burstier. Thank GOD our RL marked group leaders; it was all I could do to follow that triangle (and I failed a lot…I’m pretty sure I took the most flame damage for the whole raid)
We actually almost beat him; we lost half the melee to a frost bomb in P4 and couldn’t make the enrage timer. Bah.
(Hopefully, there’s a couple old cannon-cockers out there who get the title reference.)
I’ve been waiting to comment on the new mastery system until we got a little more info, but I feel compelled to note Eyonix’s clarification today, as it directly affects feral druids.
First, the original Mastery summary:
…Here’s how the system works: As you spend points in a given talent tree, you’ll receive three different passive bonuses specific to that tree. The first bonus will increase your damage, healing, or survivability, depending on the intended role of the tree. The second bonus will be related to a stat commonly found on gear desirable to you, such as Haste or Crit. The third bonus will be the most interesting, as it will provide an effect completely unique to that tree — meaning there will be 30 different bonuses of this nature in the game. This third bonus is the one that will benefit from the Mastery rating found on high-level (level 80 to 85) gear.
Several examples were given in the original post, such as a holy priest which received +%healing, +mana regen, and small HoTs on direct heals. You will only get this bonus from the tree in which you have the most points, and there will be a cap to discourage 0/0/76 type builds. Now, while this is a good system, I (among others) were unsure on how it would handle ferals (and DKs) who have two separate roles within the same tree. Hence, today’s clarification:
2) Ferals will have passive bonuses that say Cat: melee damage done, Bear: damage reduction. For death knights we have a different plan in mind that we’re not quite ready to discuss. DKs are undergoing some slight changes so they aren’t so GCD constrained and are less limited by rune cooldowns.
So, presumably, bonus 1 will be Bear +damage reduction / Cat +damage increase, bonus 2 will be +agility, and bonus 3? Dunno. Maybe Cat +bleed damage, Bear +%HP? That sounds pretty good, and it also sounds like we’ll be able to continue with a limited hybrid spec for early content.
Well, that wasn’t nearly as hard as I thought it was going to be. Got him on our ninth pull and had an hour left in our raid time to wipe on Sindragosa trash. :) We effectively 24-manned, since we had a healer auto-release (oops), so I think we would have still gotten him without the buff.
- Pick a strategy for experiment management and stick with it. We kept PP permanently on the green side; this let our melee stay stacked up to take a hit, or move with the slime and then jump in front for ranged. Gas clouds were easier; the target kites it past PP so the melee can break off and kill it quickly without having to run halfway across the room. It sounds complicated, but it’s not too difficult after a few attempts.
- Managing phase transitions are a pain, but it’s important, especially going into P3 (you lose the abom, so no slows on the add). We were stopping DPS on PP at 36%, which worked most of the time. If you’re having problems with this, try splitting DPS with PP at 36-37% while a slime’s up. An add at 20% health isn’t a big deal, but an add at 100% health will probably wipe your raid.
- Tanks really have to be on the ball for this one, kiting wise. The slime’s easy to stay out of; the choking gas bombs, not so much, but make the effort. Melee DPS will be target switching so much that they’ll have trouble tracking the gas bomb timers (I know I did). Our tank did an amazing job of kiting PP, and our other
- Bears make for a great OT here, since they can go cat and dps P1/P2.
- Use your speed! You should be in on every slime stack (unless your strategy dictates otherwise). Pop Barkskin to help mitigate the damage. Also try to position yourself so that the explosion sends you back towards PP; if your DPS is reasonable (and it should be if you’ve made it here), the slime should be mostly dead at the first explosion, so you can just switch back to PP; this will save you some time.
- Save FC/Dash for getting back to PP. Dash is also great for kiting the Gas Cloud (If it’s up, pop BS to help with the damage)
- Berserk in P1 and on CD in P2; save the third for P3.
- Do NOT get hit by Choking Gas in P3. The tank should be kiting away from them, but he’ll be constrained by slime. They’re almost impossible to spot (IMHO) if you don’t see them spawn, so keep your eyes open when the timer goes off.
- I didn’t on the kill, but in retrospect, one of our previous wipes might have been a kill if I’d used Tranquility. With NI, you’ll be kicking out 10K hps for 8 sec. Great for keeping the tanks propped up for the final 5%. It’s especially good to do this if you get hit by the Choking Gas, as you’re pretty useless dps-wise until that wears off.
Not a lot to say tonight; just a few random thoughts floating through my brain that don’t really deserve their own post. We’ll call them postettes. (postellas?)
- Personally, I’m pretty happy with the DPS I’ve been doing. I don’t have a good measurement for this week, but I did pull top DPS for my “segment” on BQL. (As in, I was one of the last 8 to get bitten, and I was ninth on overall DPS, just over 10k.) As much as I enjoyed shepherding my previous guild, it’s a welcome change to be nearer to the bottom of the DPS charts than the bottom. I should come up a little bit as well next week, now that my desktop has finally arrived from Korea…DPSing at 4-5 FPS is a challenge. I’m okay with the standard rotation, but as soon as I start having to move, things get ugly.
- It’s a bit unfortunate that we chose BQL as our first end-wing boss to work on, as the 5% buff makes the gear check much, much easier. We had the mechanics down two weeks ago, but never the raw DPS/HPS (we’d always lose at least one person coming out of the 2nd air phase). We probably put in 30+ attempts over those two weeks (and there was more before I joined the guild) and the closest we came was 3% before our first kill last Sunday (pre-buff, FWIW). After the buff, we rolled in there with one less DPS than normal (went 7 heals instead of 6), with a few key people out, and 4-shot her. We also downed VDW for the first time…not a terribly difficult fight, it just takes a few attempts for the healers to get used to the portals/buffs. (And apparently, they’re hotfixing that to make it easier as well.) We’re taking our first shots at PP tomorrow night. I’m still amazed at the amount of progress we’re making though…we raid 8.5 hours per week, and we’re a top 5ish guild on our server. (Or maybe we’re just a backwater server…who cares.)
- Speaking of the ICC buff, I don’t really have a problem with it; however, they really should have found a way to prevent it from being applied in heroic before they rolled it out. (At this rate, once the buff hits 30%, we’ll have people pugging the heroic version and skipping normal, just like heroics.) At the very least, have achievements that differentiate. Since it’s impossible to tell if a kill was done with it off, I predict that 99.5% of guilds will leave it on (and many of those will lie about it).
Aissi brought up a good point in the comments to my last post, noting that the 3 points previously used to take Imp. Mangle were now freed up to take Feral Aggression. Technically, that’s correct, but really, all I can say is “meh.” Imp. Mangle currently is worth about .5% DPS per talent point (so it was okay but never that good to begin with) and Feral Aggression is worth about .2% (blech). After the Mangle changes, Imp. Mangle will be worth about .1% DPS per talent point (double blech). Sure, you can move 3 points into FA if you want, but we’re talking a TINY increase. As in, my projected DPS goes from 10579 to 10621, a .4% increase. Remember, this is assuming perfect fight conditions with no movement, where you have surplus energy and CP’s to burn on bites. (FA gets a bit better if you’re ArPen capped…but I’m not talking to you. Shoo, vastly OP kitty…but give me your DBW before you go.)
Seriously. Look again at your utility, and remember you’re a hybrid class. I’m still going 0/5 FA, and maxing Nurturing Instinct (+20% healing received, plus a halfway decent Tranquility) and going for Imp. LOTP (extra passive healing is never bad) or Protector of the Pack for vastly improved emergency tanking. It even works out mathematically; in the case of Nurturing Instinct, I’m trading .4% personal DPS (from FA) for 20% personal heals, or a .8% increase in raid heals (even more in 10-man). Think about it.